Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kipenji, I'm not surprised at all that you disgracefully bow out of the
debate - the reality check had probably hit you at last! Just as well, so
you can redirect your misplaced and irrelevant pomposity elsewhere. Just the
desire effect! The very least we require of you as your kin is to quit
burying you head in sand in the comfort of western prosperity and do
something about our people in the North, many of whom still live in caves,
which pass for a homes.
Thank you.
Adam
>From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\
>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:32:37 +0100 (BST)
>
>Adam,stop this stupid posturing of being who you are not.
>This cheap apostasy will take you know where.
>And for the nth time I will put you together with the obtunded
>dunderhead Zakoomu in the same q uartile of those whose
>pedastal logic will not warrant my indulgence.
>Thank you.
>Let your apostasy lead you through your amaurotic philisophy
>about life.
>Thank you.
>Kipenji.
>________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
>Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Owor, in fairness to Baganda, they at least have something to show for
>their
>"Gakyaali mabaga". What have we in the north got to show for the dominance
>of the polical scene post-independece. The truth is - NOTHING!!!. The
>Baganda may not be Canadians, by they are light years ahead of us and, by
>the way, we should really concentrate on how we can save the situation in
>our area, rather than picking on Buganda's "motto that appears to lead us
>to
>a cul-de sac". Who is in the cul-de-sac between us and the Baganda? My
>friend, you better have a realit y check and aknowledge the dire situation
>we
>Northerners are in dear. Also, when were you last in Buganda? For you info,
>mud and wattle houses are now almost extinct in Buganda, being replace with
>corrogated roofed brick and mortar structures throught the Kingdom. We are,
>on the other hand still heavily burdened with thatched huts as the standard
>mode of housing. So please brother Kipenji, I strongly advise a reality
>check and direct your efforts where it is really needed.
>Thanks
>Adam
>
>
> >From: Owor Kipenji
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\
> >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:28 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Mshemiwa Ssenyange,I want to applaud your logic if at all
> >that passes for one with the exception that you really did not
> >pay attention to those Officers and Men of the UNLA who died
> >in that Helicopter crash with the then Chief of Army Staff.
> >Do you remember a one Captain Godfrey Kato,a promising
> >then 28 year old Muganda who died in that crash just a month
> >after his colourful wedding?
> >If you do ,does it mean that you and your fellow Baganda did actually
> >celebrate the loss of this young and talented Muganda soldier,whose widow
> >could be one of the listers on this forum?
> >Ssenyange and ilk,the world has two fundamental divide,i.e Black and
> >White.In Ottawa where you reside,I do not think any non balck person
> >will ask you whether you are a Muganda first rather than whether you
> >come from Africa,by the time they ask you which part of Africa you hail
> >the discussion of your being a Muganda would not arise for that will
>matter
> >l ess to them.This explains why these non Blacks are planning
> >to go to the Mars and Jupiter while our blacks in Uganda are still
> >bothering themselves with knowing olunyiriri,entuba and all that crap and
> >busy celebrating other people's demise as if that by itself has precluded
> >them from death.
> >With this type of flawed logic,it is no wonder that the Buganda Motto
>since
> >about 1200 has been and is:"Gakyaaali mabaga".
> >Can we not stop and revist this motto that appears to lead us to a cul-de
> >sac?.The logic is if whence you do something you get the same flawed
> >results,you ought to change the methodology if you are to move forward
>and
> >that is what I expect of all those intellectuals and elites from Mother
> >Uganda.
> >Thank you.
> >Kipenji.
> >_____________________________________________________________________________________________-----
> >
> >Edward Mulindwa wrote:
> >What is the population of Baganda? Just curious !
> >
> >Secondly, some of us were in Uganda and in luwero at the time, but
>Museveni
> >was the minister of defense, can Ssenyange tell us what happened in
>Uganda
> >under Museveni's watch? It is one of those questions which will never be
> >answered by our people who are enjoying the road map of peace, same as
>they
> >say "Ffe kasita twebaka" yet they can not tell you who refused them to
> >sleep all along, just a name who refused Ugandans to sleep?
> >
> >Em
> >
> >Toronto
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > ;"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Y Yaobang
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:11 PM
> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\
> >
> >
> >
> >Ssenyange:
> >
> >You stated:
> >
> >"... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command.
>..."
> >
> >This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised
>if
> >you ended up in court over this!!
> >
> >y
> >
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> > >From: "ssenya nyange"
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\
> > >Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:52:10 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >Owor Kipenji,
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to
> > >celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as
> > >many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who
> > >had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the
> > >500,000 relatives under Oyite's command.
> > >Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and
> > >indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did
> > >the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He
> > >was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood
> > >of 1/2 million i nnocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road
> > >map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map
> > >victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to
> > >continue ruling for another 5 years.
> > >
> > >Ssenyange
> > >
> > >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >>From: Owor Kipenji
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\
> > >>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST)
> > >>
> > >>What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools
> > >>many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of
> > >>nature to rescue them fro m their own failings.
> > >>Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence
> > >>Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will
> > >>somehow circumvent it.
> > >>Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of
> > >>ignorance that surrounds that person.
> > >>Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that
> > >>book"Jesus
> > >>Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch
> > >>and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike
> > >>then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the
> > >>least of their members.
> > >>Thank you.
> > >>Kipenji.
> >
> >>________________________________________________________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>gook makanga wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Ssenyange,
> > >>
> > >>The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why
> > >>in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then
> > >>and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in
> > >>mourning.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Gook
> > >>
> > >>"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>----Original Message Follows----
> > >>From: "ssenya nyange"
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject : RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\
> > >>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and
> > >>danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in
> > >>Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of
> > >>celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating
> > >>someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the
> > >>Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2
> > >>years later.
> > >>
> > >>J. Ssenyange
> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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