Adam
Why does an intelligent person like you respond to crap? Let us keep quite
and facts will go away, let us play the bigotry trip and it will make us
better. There are those of us who have been in the middle of Uganda politics
for a while and we have seen it all. Unlike the Ssenyange's and you, who
were born in Amin's time.
The beauty of Uganda issues is that it all boils down to Ugandans at home.
On the death of UPC in Uganda, I will say this, as a Movementist you
believe that UPC is dead, and I have no problem with that what so ever. Why
don't we test the waters by freeing political partys in the nation? Why does
that scare the living hell out of you? 20 plus years when you have supported
the silencing of political partys. Let us open them.
Or you are the only smart Ugandan who knows that UPC is anathema to Uganda?
Is attacking it our only solution today? Why don't we try another style, why
can't we study it and know its strength and weakness? May be just may be it
is your kind which is making Ugandans wonder about this party? For what is
it you based on to state that it cannot survive any longer? Why have you
brought in Obote's name and demanded their extinction? For to me it seems
that UPC is not Obote but a belief. A belief which is in Ugandans with Obote
or with out him? May be that is what you have failed to grasp?
Let me ask you as well, if we were to put a free and fair election in Uganda
today, which political party do you see winning? DP KY or UPM? Adam let us
raise the level of this discussion for once. And I think your answering such
questions can be very vital in this endeavor. if you have the ability to
that is.
Have a good day sir/madam as you wallow.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Dada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:03 AM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: OWE'K KASANGWAWO
>
> "Mulindwa" - Your convoluted postings are indicative of your scattered
mind.
> Why do you need a page to state what can be said in a couple of words, all
> of which is crap anyway. UPC is anathema in Buganda and parts of the
North -
> period. Like your hero Obote, I can't see it surviving for much longer -
> they are both imminently doomed to extinction - thats the reality - love
it,
> loath it, but you brain somehow can't grasp that fact. As for you, it
hurts
> that you continue to admantly insist that you are a Muganda and denounce
us
> for some reason, as if owning up to your true origins will demean you and
> your stature somehow. We are all human beings, though with varying degrees
> of civilization and devopment, which shouldn't really matter, as long as
> were are as Northerners committed to at least doing something for our folk
> who are doom stone age-style existence. I can't to it alone, I need to
> enlist the assistance of my tribesmen like you. Trouble is, they are all
too
> eaten up by envying other areas, to realize that things are nose-diving.
As
> a matter of fact, even animals don't destroy themselves the way we are
doing
> to ourselves. Look at what Kony is doing to us, his own people! I can
> remember seeing that a similar thing in Buganda, or elsewhere in Uganda
for
> that matter. "Mulindwa", Kipenji, Oracha el al, please lets do something
for
> our people. Leave the Baganda alone - it is sheer stupidity, as if we are
> all bewitched!
> Adam
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: OWE'K KASANGWAWO
> >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:13:11 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> >
> >It is true that many Ugandans abandoned these forums for there is truly
> >nothing much to gain. But there are those of us who feel that we as
> >Ugandans
> >can discuss matters of our nation from a backed up process than Munange
> >bang'ambye, for that munange ba'ngabye is well and alive to the villages
we
> >are born. All I am trying to do is to change trend to see that we as
> >Ugandans who have been abroad can surely up lift this debate from the
Malwa
> >talk to serious talk. For you know what? We are discussing matters which
> >directly result into the loss of the lives of our people.
> >
> >Let me add as well that I was in the meeting in Toronto where it was
> >decided
> >that every Southerner must be militarily trained, a meeting which
produced
> >the infamous Chaka Muchaka, and the reasoning people like Professor
Kasozi
> >now who is in Mbale University as a professor had, were that Uganda's
> >atrocities were caused by Northerners. But as a Muganda I found that hard
> >to
> >believe either way for the following reasons
> >
> >1) State research bureau had the least Northerners, and I do not even
> >remember a prominent northerner in State research, but it was an
> >institution
> >which killed a great number of people. But the majority of those officers
> >were Baganda and Westerners including Rwandese. Acholis and Langis? Nah
> >they
> >were not in Nakasero.
> >2) I can not remember any government (again I am going to go with facts
> >than nawulidde) that has made Buganda as powerful as she was under UPC
> >government. Intelligent as I believe you are you surely know how many
> >powerful ministerial positions Baganda hold in both UPC governments. Yes
> >Museveni and NRM have given Baganda powerful positions, but Kiseka who
was
> >a
> >PM, died a beggar, a man who sold all he had including the land that
today
> >no one knows where Kiseka's body is, for the owner of his land was forced
> >by
> >NRM to let a plot to lay in the body of Kiseka as a state funeral. What
> >happened after the convoys left, you and I surely do not know. Andrew
> >Kayiira was murdered, Edward Mugalu was shot day light, The whole pile of
> >Doctors we had in Doctor's village in were attacked and murdered by
Fronasa
> >during the Lule days. Many of whom were Baganda. I can give you a whole
> >list
> >of Baganda killed by this government. It baffles every right thinking
> >Ugandan that all these NRM murders have gone un noticed by a man like you
> >and your fellow federalists. But how can you notice them when all of you
> >believe that Museveni killed no body in Luwero District and Oyite Ojok
> >killed 500 000 people?
> >
> >++++++++(Now I know that this paragraph will be used to attack me as a
UPC
> >supporter, and to those I will state that I have never had a plan to run
> >out
> >of Uganda until when UPC threw me into Makindye to until when my life was
> >on
> >a wire, and there are many people both in Uganda and Kenya who saw me a
> >week
> >after the death of Oyite Ojok who mis took me for a dead person. Yes the
> >days when Ssenyange's were in Nairobi drinking for a Ugandan is dead, I
was
> >praying hard that God helps me to see my body produce shit at least once.
> >And Kasangwawo I wonder whether you were in Makindye ever? So before
those
> >who were drinking in Nairobi attack me, should ask them selves why I
bother
> >this much?)+++++++++
> >
> >3) The years I have been abroad have helped me to polish on my primitive
> >thinking, and I have looked at Buganda issues very objectively. Unlikely
> >Mr.
> >Mukooza and Dada and Ssenyange and Dr Kigongo who believe that Uganda
will
> >be build by Baganda. Or sorry I take that back, who think that Buganda is
> >developed and what we need to day is to wake up the stupid Kipenji and
> >Grakanga and Matek to developed their area as Baganda developed it. I
> >decided to ask my self a very simple question, why do Ugandans love UPC?
> >Why
> >is every body fighting for Obote's and none for Mutesa for example? That
to
> >today I do not know. But this I know, UPC believed and still believes in
> >very high education. We can call Obote all bad names we have, but the
> >bottom
> >line remains that he got more scholarships for Buganda than all previous
> >Uganda leaders combined. That includes Sir Edward Mutesa, President Lule,
> >President Binayisa, up to and into Ssabasajja Mutebi. Who all happen to
be
> >Baganda leaders. If you are careful you will realize that I have not
> >included Paul Kawanga. (Yes he could get scholarship for Buganda for even
> >obote worked hard to overthrow Amin when he was not in power, and yes
> >Baganda continued to get education abroad) or even Amin who had the
Moslem
> >money pumped into Uganda daily. Now having established that, why should
> >Obote as a Northerner ever care to get a Muganda kid educated?
> >
> >4) If Uganda atrocities were caused by Northerners, why has Uganda
failed
> >to settle down now 20 years after Obote left power?
> >
> >5) During my imprisonment in Makindye the people who fade us were
> >Northerner, but a Muganda or Munyankole would not. And I am kindly
> >challenging you to ask any one who was in Makindye, to tell us otherwise.
> >
> >Let me not bore you for all these intricacies I am posting here are not
for
> >your grade. These are meat with bones which can be eaten by an adult. An
> >adult who is willing to make statements and stand by them 20 years down
the
> >road, and I will give you the names of those who listened and called me a
> >stupid Muganda who does not know how Buganda is going to be okay under
> >Museveni.
> >1) Professor kasozi (Who is in Mbaale uni)
> >2) Tomusange (Who was a lab tech in London but made a Ugandan ambassador
in
> >Ottawa for he was a Lule supporter)
> >3) Dr Nakanyike (Who decided to leave Canada and go to Uganda to work for
a
> >killer government)
> >4) Dr Musisi -The husband of Nakanyike- (Who as well went to support the
> >mass murderess)
> >5) Rugundu (Who left Toronto after being offered a job as a Manager
Coffee
> >marketing Board -London office)
> >6) Dr George Otto Who kindly resides in Toronto
> >And I can continue on and on for I have lots.
> >
> >In conclusion Mwaami Kasangwawo and your good Baganda, you have hurt our
> >cause. A cause of people like my self who has never got a pant from Obote
> >or
> >Amin or Mutesa or Mutebi or Museveni. A people who know that if a
> >Northerner
> >or a Southerner or a Moslem or Catholic leads Uganda it does not matter
we
> >will still have to go to work. A people who love Buganda where we were
born
> >and love it as a cultural entity and not as a political entity. A people
> >who
> >know that there is no political development that can be achieved in
Uganda
> >other than through political party's. As people who have accepted that
> >Ugandans love UPC and the only way we can oppose that is by either
refusing
> >Ugandans to love that party or by studying what it does. For when we look
> >in
> >the future of Uganda, either way you slice it, UPC is here to stay, for
> >after 20 years Ugandans still march on Kampala road with UPC uniforms.
> >
> >Is Obote forcing Ugandans to put on UPC uniforms and march on Kampala
road
> >when he is in Lusaka?
> >
> >Your making this debate a tribal debate, and turning it into Baganda and
> >Northerners, has denied us the chance to have a legitimate and adult
> >discussion where we can put UPC as a party to carpet. UPC has a lot of
> >explaining to do. There are those of us who were imprisoned during Obote
> >two, and we want to be allowed to ask why? There are those of us who
wonder
> >why the difference between UPC one and UPC two. But we can not ask those
> >questions when you have made Uganda issue a Baganda developed, a
Northerner
> >primitive and federalism a Uganda last pill. And that takes away our only
> >opportunity to have a good but serious discussion on these and other
> >matters
> >of importance about Uganda.
> >
> >I hope you help every one in these forums to uplift this discussion from
> >the
> >ghettoes the federalist have thrown it into.
> >
> >Em
> >Toronto
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:41 PM
> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> >
> >
> > > Mulindwa,
> > >
> > > the only idiot here is you and gang who obstinately refuse to believe
> >the
> > > facts as confirmed even
> > > by independent sources.
> > >
> > > That aside, I found the reason you gave for the introduction of a
> >register
> > > quite amusing. You seem to think that everyone is on welfare like you
> >while
> > > you at the same time travel to far places like Winnipeg or even Hong
> >Kong
> > > for kyeyo ! I hope they don't find out about these extra activities of
> > > yours, otherwise your welfare check might be confiscated.
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> > > >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:30:14 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Zakoomu
> > > >
> > > >Is Kipenji from the North?
> > > >
> > > >Apparently straight questions are never answered in this forum.
> >Remember
> > > >the idiot who stated that Oyite Ojok murdered 500 000 Baganda in
Luwero
> > > >District? Facts faced him and he dumped his tail right where it
belongs
> >in
> > > >his legs. That is why I continue that we can never put changes in
> >Uganda
> > > >until when we make a national register a mandatory, we need to
register
> >all
> > > >Ugandans, finger print them and make a national identity card. In
that
> >way
> > > >we will kill two birds with two stones (a) If you make allegations on
> >some
> > > >one, you can be sued and your well fare check can be confiscated and
> >(b)
> > > >You will not have a right to be Mukooza and call your self Zakoomu.
> > > >
> > > >We must create a sense of accountability in our society it is as
> >important
> > > >as nothing more.
> > > >
> > > >Em
> > > >Toronto
> > > >
> > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Rehema Mukooza
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:14 PM
> > > > Subject: ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kipenji:
> > > >
> > > > How can Adam Dada be an IDIOT?? He is speaking the truth, unlike
> >you
> > > >who is in denial of under development of the North. In the North,
> >people
> > > >are still living in grass thatched houses and you are trying to deny
> >it.
> > > >You galla be livin' la vida fantasia.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Zakoomu M.
> > > >
===================================================================
> > > >
> > > > Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Adam, I told you before that I have not time for IDIOTS
> > > > like you.
> > > > Wallow in your IDIOCY till kingdom come.
> > > > Ugandanet should not be turned into a gossip chat room
> > > > by pigs and idiots of your type.
> > > > Auf Wieder Sehen!
> > > > Kipenji.
> > > >
> >_____________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kipenji, I'm not surprised at all that you disgracefully bow
out
> >of
> > > >the
> > > > debate - the reality check had probably hit you at last! Just
as
> > > >well, so
> > > > you can redirect your misplaced and irrelevant pomposity
> >elsewhere.
> > > >Just the
> > > > desire effect! The very least we require of you as your kin is
> >to
> > > >quit
> > > > burying you head in sand in the comfort of western prosperity
> >and
> >do
> > > > something about our people in the North, many of whom still
live
> >in
> > > >caves,
> > > > which pass for a homes.
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > Adam
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >---------------------------
> > > >
> > > > >From: Owor Kipenji
> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\
> > > > >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:32:37 +0100 (BST)
> > > > >
> > > > >Adam,stop this stupid posturing of being who you are not.
> > > > >This cheap apostasy will take you know where.
> > > > >And for the nth time I will put you together with the
obtunded
> > > > >dunderhead Zakoomu in the same quartile of those whose
> > > > >pedastal logic will not warrant my indulgence.
> > > > >Thank you.
> > > > >Let your apostasy lead you through your amaurotic philisophy
> > > > >about life.
> > > > >Thank you.
> > > > >Kipenji.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>___________________________________________________________________________
> >_____________________
> > > > >
> > > > >Adam Dada wrote:
> > > > >Owor, in fairness to Bagand a, they at least have something
to
> >show
> > > >for
> > > > >their
> > > > >"Gakyaali mabaga". What have we in the north got to show for
> >the
> > > >dominance
> > > > >of the polical scene post-independece. The truth is -
> >NOTHING!!!.
> > > >The
> > > > >Baganda may not be Canadians, by they are light years ahead
of
> >us
> > > >and, by
> > > > >the way, we should really concentrate on how we can save the
> > > >situation in
> > > > >our area, rather than picking on Buganda's "motto that
appears
> >to
> > > >lead us
> > > > >to
> > > > >a cul-de sac ". Who is in the cul-de-sac between us and the
> > > >Baganda? My
> > > > >friend, you better have a reality check and aknowledge the
dire
> > > >situation
> > > > >we
> > > > >Northerners are in dear. Also, when were you last in Buganda?
> >For
> > > >you info,
> > > > >mud and wattle houses are now almost extinct in Buganda,
being
> > > >replace with
> > > > >corrogated roofed brick and mortar structures throught the
> >Kingdom.
> > > >We are,
> > > > >on the other hand still heavily burdened with thatched huts
as
> >the
> > > >standard
> > > > >mode of housing. So please brother Kipenji, I strongly advise
a
> > > >reality
> > > > >check and direct your efforts where it is really needed.
> > > > >Thanks
> > > > >Adam
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >---------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji
> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_:
Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:28 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mshemiwa Ssenyange,I want to applaud your logic if at all
> > > > > >that passes for one with the exception that you really did
> >not
> > > > > >pay attention to those Officers and Men of the UNLA who
died
> > > > > >in that Helicopter crash with the then Chief of Army Staff.
> > > > > >Do you remember a one Captain Godfrey Kato,a promising
> > > > > >then 28 year old Muganda who died in that crash just a
month
> > > > > >after his colourful wedding?
> > > > > >If you do ,does it mean that you and your fellow Baganda
did
> > > >actually
> > > > > >celebrate the loss of this young and talented Muganda
> > > >soldier,whose widow
> > > > > >could be one of the listers on this forum?
> > > > > >Ssenyange and ilk,the world has two fundamental divide,i.e
> >Black
> > > >and
> > > > > >White.In Ottawa where you reside,I do not think any non
balck
> > > >person
> > > > > >will ask you whether you are a Muganda first rather than
> >whether
> > > >you
> > > > > >come from Africa,by the time they ask you which part of
> >Africa
> > > >you hail
> > > > > & gt;the discussion of your being a Muganda would not arise
> >for
> > > >that will
> > > > >matter
> > > > > >less to them.This explains why these non Blacks are
planning
> > > > > >to go to the Mars and Jupiter while our blacks in Uganda
are
> > > >still
> > > > > >bothering themselves with knowing olunyiriri,entuba and all
> >that
> > > >crap and
> > > > > >busy celebrating other people's demise as if that by itself
> >has
> > > >precluded
> > > > > >them from death.
> > > > > >With this type of flawed logic,it is no wonder that the
> >Buganda
> > > >Motto
> > > > >since
> > > > > >about 1200 has been and is:"Gakyaaali mabaga".
> > > > > >Can we not stop and revist this motto that appear s to lead
> >us
> >to
> > > >a cul-de
> > > > > >sac?.The logic is if whence you do something you get the
same
> > > >flawed
> > > > > >results,you ought to change the methodology if you are to
> >move
> > > >forward
> > > > >and
> > > > > >that is what I expect of all those intellectuals and elites
> >from
> > > >Mother
> > > > > >Uganda.
> > > > > >Thank you.
> > > > > >Kipenji.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>___________________________________________________________________________
> >__________________-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Edward Mulindwa wrote:
> > > > > >What is the population of Baganda? Just curious !
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Secondly, some of us were in Uganda and in luwero at the
> >time,
> > > >but
> > > > >Museveni
> > > > > >was the minister of defense, can Ssenyange tell us what
> >happened
> > > >in
> > > > >Uganda
> > > > > >under Museveni's watch? It is one of those questions which
> >will
> > > >never be
> > > > > >answered by our people who are enjoying the road map of
> >peace,
> > > >same as
> > > > >they
> > > > > >say "Ffe kasita twebaka" ye t they can not tell you who
> >refused
> > > >them to
> > > > > >sleep all along, just a name who refused Ugandans to sleep?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Em
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Toronto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >---------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: Y Yaobang
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:11 PM
> > > > > >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried
here\
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ssenyange:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You stated:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under
Oyite's
> > > >command.
> > > > >..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would
not
> >be
> > > >suprised
> > > > >if
> > > > > >you ended up in court over this!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >y
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >---------------------------
> > > > > > >From: "ssenya nyange"
> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried
> >here\
> > > > > > >Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:52:10 -0400> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Owor Kipenji,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to
> > > > > > >celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different.
> >Just
> > > >as
> > > > > > >many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially
> >those
> > > >who
> > > > > > >had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost
> >the
> > > > > > >500,000 relatives under Oyite's command.
> > > > > > >Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of
the
> > > >dead and
> > > > > > >indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of
Luweero.How
> >long
> > > >did
> > > > > > >the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2
> > > >years. He
> > > > > > >was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted
> >with
> > > >blood
> > > > > > >of 1/2 million innocent citizens. If his death was seen
as
> >the
> > > >road
> > > > > > >map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate
the
> > > >road map
> > > > > > >victo ry, just because it saved another million if the
UPC
> >was
> > > >to
> > > > > > >continue ruling for another 5 years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ssenyange
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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> >-------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>From: Owor Kipenji
> > > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried
> >here\
> > > > > > >>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the
> >tools
> > > > > > >>many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the
> >course
> > > >of
> > > > > > >>nature to rescue them from their own failings.
> > > > > > >>Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life
> >and
> > > >hence
> > > > > > >>Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this
> >world
> > > >will
> > > > > > >>somehow circ umvent it.
> > > > > > >>Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the
> >level
> > > >of
> > > > > > >>ignorance that surrounds that person.
> > > > > > >>Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read
that
> > > > > > >>book"Jesus
> > > > > > >>Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by
> >Wilheim
> > > >Busch
> > > > > > >>and therein you will come of age to understand why
> > > >today,unlike
> > > > > > >>then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death
of
> > > >even the
> > > > > > >>least of their members.
> > > > > > >>Thank you.
> > > > > > >>Kipenji.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>>__________________________________________________________________________
> >______________________
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>gook makanga wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Ssenyange,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that
> >strange?
> > > >Why
> > > > &g t; > >>in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I
was
> >in
> > > >Kla then
> > > > > > >>and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans
in
> > > > > > >>mourning.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Gook
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >---------------------------
> > > > > > >>----Original Message Follows----
> > > > > > >>From: "ssenya nyange"
> > > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried
> >here\
> > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated,
> >boosed
> > > >and
> > > > > > >>danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I
was
> >in
> > > > > > >>Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures
> >of
> > > > > > >>celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to
> >celebrating
> > > > > > >>someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It
was
> > > >like the
> > > > > > >>Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration
paid
> >off
> > > >2
> > > > > > >>years later.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>J. Ssenyange
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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