I couldn't have put it better. The man is all over the place. He also thinks that the longer he
writes the more sense he makes - yet the opposite is true. Someone once said that you can
tell how intelligent a person is by how concise s/he can put down the relevant facts. Well, by
looking at his ramblings below, you be the judge.
Before I finish, let me expose the lie with which Mulindwa begins his posting. When I joined this forum a few years ago, Baganda-bashing was the daily hobby of some netters. Some people couldn't stand it anymore and decided to keep quiet, but a few people like myself started challenging this unbecoming behaviour. After some of these bashers could not stand the heat,
they decided to shut up instead of further embarrassing themselves with baseless allegations against Baganda. As you probably can guess, most of these people are UPC supporters. What you see today still making baseless allegations are the remainder of these morons.
Kasangwawo
From: "Adam Dada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: OWE'K KASANGWAWO Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:03:47 +0000
"Mulindwa" - Your convoluted postings are indicative of your scattered mind. Why do you need a page to state what can be said in a couple of words, all of which is crap anyway. UPC is anathema in Buganda and parts of the North - period. Like your hero Obote, I can't see it surviving for much longer - they are both imminently doomed to extinction - thats the reality - love it, loath it, but you brain somehow can't grasp that fact. As for you, it hurts that you continue to admantly insist that you are a Muganda and denounce us for some reason, as if owning up to your true origins will demean you and your stature somehow. We are all human beings, though with varying degrees of civilization and devopment, which shouldn't really matter, as long as were are as Northerners committed to at least doing something for our folk who are doom stone age-style existence. I can't to it alone, I need to enlist the assistance of my tribesmen like you. Trouble is, they are all too eaten up by envying other areas, to realize that things are nose-diving. As a matter of fact, even animals don't destroy themselves the way we are doing to ourselves. Look at what Kony is doing to us, his own people! I can remember seeing that a similar thing in Buganda, or elsewhere in Uganda for that matter. "Mulindwa", Kipenji, Oracha el al, please lets do something for our people. Leave the Baganda alone - it is sheer stupidity, as if we are all bewitched!
Adam
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: OWE'K KASANGWAWO Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:13:11 -0400
Mwaami Kasangwawo
It is true that many Ugandans abandoned these forums for there is truly
nothing much to gain. But there are those of us who feel that we as Ugandans
can discuss matters of our nation from a backed up process than Munange
bang'ambye, for that munange ba'ngabye is well and alive to the villages we
are born. All I am trying to do is to change trend to see that we as
Ugandans who have been abroad can surely up lift this debate from the Malwa
talk to serious talk. For you know what? We are discussing matters which
directly result into the loss of the lives of our people.
Let me add as well that I was in the meeting in Toronto where it was decided
that every Southerner must be militarily trained, a meeting which produced
the infamous Chaka Muchaka, and the reasoning people like Professor Kasozi
now who is in Mbale University as a professor had, were that Uganda's
atrocities were caused by Northerners. But as a Muganda I found that hard to
believe either way for the following reasons
1) State research bureau had the least Northerners, and I do not even
remember a prominent northerner in State research, but it was an institution
which killed a great number of people. But the majority of those officers
were Baganda and Westerners including Rwandese. Acholis and Langis? Nah they
were not in Nakasero.
2) I can not remember any government (again I am going to go with facts
than nawulidde) that has made Buganda as powerful as she was under UPC
government. Intelligent as I believe you are you surely know how many
powerful ministerial positions Baganda hold in both UPC governments. Yes
Museveni and NRM have given Baganda powerful positions, but Kiseka who was a
PM, died a beggar, a man who sold all he had including the land that today
no one knows where Kiseka's body is, for the owner of his land was forced by
NRM to let a plot to lay in the body of Kiseka as a state funeral. What
happened after the convoys left, you and I surely do not know. Andrew
Kayiira was murdered, Edward Mugalu was shot day light, The whole pile of
Doctors we had in Doctor's village in were attacked and murdered by Fronasa
during the Lule days. Many of whom were Baganda. I can give you a whole list
of Baganda killed by this government. It baffles every right thinking
Ugandan that all these NRM murders have gone un noticed by a man like you
and your fellow federalists. But how can you notice them when all of you
believe that Museveni killed no body in Luwero District and Oyite Ojok
killed 500 000 people?
++++++++(Now I know that this paragraph will be used to attack me as a UPC
supporter, and to those I will state that I have never had a plan to run out
of Uganda until when UPC threw me into Makindye to until when my life was on
a wire, and there are many people both in Uganda and Kenya who saw me a week
after the death of Oyite Ojok who mis took me for a dead person. Yes the
days when Ssenyange's were in Nairobi drinking for a Ugandan is dead, I was
praying hard that God helps me to see my body produce shit at least once.
And Kasangwawo I wonder whether you were in Makindye ever? So before those
who were drinking in Nairobi attack me, should ask them selves why I bother
this much?)+++++++++
3) The years I have been abroad have helped me to polish on my primitive
thinking, and I have looked at Buganda issues very objectively. Unlikely Mr.
Mukooza and Dada and Ssenyange and Dr Kigongo who believe that Uganda will
be build by Baganda. Or sorry I take that back, who think that Buganda is
developed and what we need to day is to wake up the stupid Kipenji and
Grakanga and Matek to developed their area as Baganda developed it. I
decided to ask my self a very simple question, why do Ugandans love UPC? Why
is every body fighting for Obote's and none for Mutesa for example? That to
today I do not know. But this I know, UPC believed and still believes in
very high education. We can call Obote all bad names we have, but the bottom
line remains that he got more scholarships for Buganda than all previous
Uganda leaders combined. That includes Sir Edward Mutesa, President Lule,
President Binayisa, up to and into Ssabasajja Mutebi. Who all happen to be
Baganda leaders. If you are careful you will realize that I have not
included Paul Kawanga. (Yes he could get scholarship for Buganda for even
obote worked hard to overthrow Amin when he was not in power, and yes
Baganda continued to get education abroad) or even Amin who had the Moslem
money pumped into Uganda daily. Now having established that, why should
Obote as a Northerner ever care to get a Muganda kid educated?
4) If Uganda atrocities were caused by Northerners, why has Uganda failed to settle down now 20 years after Obote left power?
5) During my imprisonment in Makindye the people who fade us were Northerner, but a Muganda or Munyankole would not. And I am kindly challenging you to ask any one who was in Makindye, to tell us otherwise.
Let me not bore you for all these intricacies I am posting here are not for
your grade. These are meat with bones which can be eaten by an adult. An
adult who is willing to make statements and stand by them 20 years down the
road, and I will give you the names of those who listened and called me a
stupid Muganda who does not know how Buganda is going to be okay under
Museveni.
1) Professor kasozi (Who is in Mbaale uni)
2) Tomusange (Who was a lab tech in London but made a Ugandan ambassador in
Ottawa for he was a Lule supporter)
3) Dr Nakanyike (Who decided to leave Canada and go to Uganda to work for a
killer government)
4) Dr Musisi -The husband of Nakanyike- (Who as well went to support the
mass murderess)
5) Rugundu (Who left Toronto after being offered a job as a Manager Coffee
marketing Board -London office)
6) Dr George Otto Who kindly resides in Toronto
And I can continue on and on for I have lots.
In conclusion Mwaami Kasangwawo and your good Baganda, you have hurt our
cause. A cause of people like my self who has never got a pant from Obote or
Amin or Mutesa or Mutebi or Museveni. A people who know that if a Northerner
or a Southerner or a Moslem or Catholic leads Uganda it does not matter we
will still have to go to work. A people who love Buganda where we were born
and love it as a cultural entity and not as a political entity. A people who
know that there is no political development that can be achieved in Uganda
other than through political party's. As people who have accepted that
Ugandans love UPC and the only way we can oppose that is by either refusing
Ugandans to love that party or by studying what it does. For when we look in
the future of Uganda, either way you slice it, UPC is here to stay, for
after 20 years Ugandans still march on Kampala road with UPC uniforms.
Is Obote forcing Ugandans to put on UPC uniforms and march on Kampala road when he is in Lusaka?
Your making this debate a tribal debate, and turning it into Baganda and
Northerners, has denied us the chance to have a legitimate and adult
discussion where we can put UPC as a party to carpet. UPC has a lot of
explaining to do. There are those of us who were imprisoned during Obote
two, and we want to be allowed to ask why? There are those of us who wonder
why the difference between UPC one and UPC two. But we can not ask those
questions when you have made Uganda issue a Baganda developed, a Northerner
primitive and federalism a Uganda last pill. And that takes away our only
opportunity to have a good but serious discussion on these and other matters
of importance about Uganda.
I hope you help every one in these forums to uplift this discussion from the
ghettoes the federalist have thrown it into.
Em Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> Mulindwa,
>
> the only idiot here is you and gang who obstinately refuse to believe the
> facts as confirmed even
> by independent sources.
>
> That aside, I found the reason you gave for the introduction of a register
> quite amusing. You seem to think that everyone is on welfare like you
while
> you at the same time travel to far places like Winnipeg or even Hong Kong
> for kyeyo ! I hope they don't find out about these extra activities of
> yours, otherwise your welfare check might be confiscated.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:30:14 -0400
> >
> >Zakoomu
> >
> >Is Kipenji from the North?
> >
> >Apparently straight questions are never answered in this forum. Remember
> >the idiot who stated that Oyite Ojok murdered 500 000 Baganda in Luwero
> >District? Facts faced him and he dumped his tail right where it belongs
in
> >his legs. That is why I continue that we can never put changes in Uganda
> >until when we make a national register a mandatory, we need to register
all
> >Ugandans, finger print them and make a national identity card. In that
way
> >we will kill two birds with two stones (a) If you make allegations on
some
> >one, you can be sued and your well fare check can be confiscated and (b)
> >You will not have a right to be Mukooza and call your self Zakoomu.
> >
> >We must create a sense of accountability in our society it is as
important
> >as nothing more.
> >
> >Em
> >Toronto
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rehema Mukooza
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:14 PM
> > Subject: ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here
> >
> >
> > Kipenji:
> >
> > How can Adam Dada be an IDIOT?? He is speaking the truth, unlike you
> >who is in denial of under development of the North. In the North, people
> >are still living in grass thatched houses and you are trying to deny it.
> >You galla be livin' la vida fantasia.
> >
> >
> > Zakoomu M.
> > ===================================================================
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