No wonder you have no name for it all makes sense to you including the murdering of Haji Musa Ssebirumbi, a man who was clearly very sick and disabled.
Again I insist Uganda is a ZOO let us just learn to move on with out it for this kind of reasoning just baffles me.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
Mw. Mulindwa,
One thing that we seem to agree on here is that we want Obote like anyone else
who thinks it is not a "zoo" to get back to Uganda if they so with. The
disagreement is the on whether or not there should be a blanket amnesty. I say
no amnesty to Dr. Obote or anybody else who may have been responsible for any
killings in Uganda. No one is about to drag any of them to prison before a
hearing. They will have to earn their places there if they can not defend
themselves.
Fortunately Dr. Obote is so popular that Mukono (Never mind the massive
defection to the Mvnt there) has raised 25 cows for his welcome. Such a person
should not find it hard to get back and correct the wrong impression that has
been created about him.
Yes there some former Obote ministers in government and nothing has been done
about them, but lets also remind ourselves that there others like Rwakasisi who
are in Luzira. Dr. Obote could just turn out to be like those who are innocent
enough to be appointed ministers in Museveni's regime.
Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay? What
happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who are in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda today does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed Ugandans in Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's return because
they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.
And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length
regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote can come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he can show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far raised 25 cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what Ugandans feel
about him?.
Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I will stay here.
Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
Mr. Mulindwa, It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of Kabaka's death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have been very easy.
In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself, fortunately he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting ones like me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him but President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY Luwero but other parts of the country as well.
Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story even 20 yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general
public to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now
that he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity to listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are getting interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be the answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.
Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions are asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for all the deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that
will see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed while he was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we
cannot demand for it from Dr. Obote now.
Nice day.
Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked?
Did
> you
> really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And
why
> has
> The Movement taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw
The
> Paul
> Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The
Movement
> is
> the one to have every thing to hide?
>
> But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and
we
>
> accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda
girl
> who
> was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
> report
> and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
> drunkard.
> And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
> because
> it is some thing we must just believe.
>
> Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
>
> Em
> Toronto
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>
>
> Mr. Onegi,
> Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and
with
> the
> ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and
convince
> the
> courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni
and
> not
> him
> who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans
these
>
> facts?
> Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not
know
> who
> the
> killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like
so
>
> many
> other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he
gets
>
> back
> to Uganda.
>
> And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that
I
> belong
> to
> the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is.
I
>
> will,
> like many others, continue asking. For it is a fact that people
were
> killed
> in
> Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons
that
> some
> of
> us want to know. The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ
here
>
> used
> to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it
is
> effective
> today.
>
> Nice day.
>
>
> Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is
> the
> > one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
> > contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started
> an
> > unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes
and
> > mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart
> intelligent
> > and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and
in
> the
> > morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
> > That is briefly what has been going on.
> > Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain,
Museveni
> and
> > his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
> > legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
> > master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return.
That
> is
> > your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush,
isn't
> > that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in.
> >
> > Onegi
> >
> > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not
> responsible
> > for the
> > atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his
> regime,
> > why
> > doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His
> coming
> > back may
> > be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just
the
> UPC
> > members
> > who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the
deaths
> in
> > Luwero
> > and elsewhere in the country.
> >
> > Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> > >
> > > THE Uganda People's Congress (UPC) has said information state
> > minister
> > > Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the
> > people
> > > who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya.
> > >
> > > Speaking on phone, UPC's defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo,
> > yesterday
> > > said, "I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other
> > than
> > > protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people
who
> > threw
> > > the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton
> Obote
> > as
> > > he said. Obote is not a killer.
> > >
> > > "That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it
from
> > the
> > > government. We know they have sinister plans for the party
> > president.
> > > They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> > > public's opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way
of
> > > stopping him from coming back," Wegulo said.
> > >
> > > He was reacting to Buturo's warning on Luweero massacres in
which
> he
> > > said exiled former president Obote should answer for the
> atrocities.
> >
> > >
> > > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come
out
> > openly
> > > on Obote's return.
> > > "This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the
> > government.
> > > So when the government says such things about him, we have to be
> > very
> > > careful," Wegulo said.
> > >
> > > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
> > >
> > >
> > >
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