And for twenty plus years you idiots never cared to sue HUH, Baganda crap some times amazes me for it goes toe to toe with stupidity.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
           Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC



Its not enough just putting the blame on Obote's ministers. The fact is, Obote was the chief executive, so to say. He has to take responsibility for the killing of Ugandans that went on under his watch. Unless you are saying that he was so incompetent that he was not aware of what his ministers were doing or he simply couldn't control them.

From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:56:47 -0400

And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay? What happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who are in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda today does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed Ugandans in Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's return because they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.

And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote can come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he can show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far raised 25 cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what Ugandans feel about him?.

Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I will stay here.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
           Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC


Mr. Mulindwa,
It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of Kabaka's
death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have been
very easy.


In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself, fortunately
he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting ones like
me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him but
President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY Luwero but
other parts of the country as well.


Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story even 20
yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general public
to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now that
he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity to
listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are getting
interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be the
answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.


Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions are
asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for all the
deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that will
see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed while he
was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we cannot
demand for it from Dr. Obote now.


Nice day.

Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? Did
you
really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And why
has
The Movement  taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw The
Paul
Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The Movement
is
the one to have every thing to hide?

But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we

accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda girl
who
was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
report
and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
drunkard.
And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
because
it is some thing we must just believe.

Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC


Mr. Onegi, Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with the ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince the courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and not him who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these

facts?
Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know
who
the
killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so

many
other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets

back
to Uganda.

And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I
belong
to
the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I

will,
like many others, continue asking.  For it is a fact that people were
killed
in
Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that
some
of
us want to know.  The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here

used
to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is
effective
today.

Nice day.


Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is
the
> one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
> contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started
an
> unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and
> mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart
intelligent
> and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in
the
> morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
> That is briefly what has been going on.
> Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni
and
> his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
> legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
> master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That
is
> your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't
> that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in.
>
> Onegi
>
> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Since, according to UPC,  Obote and his government are not
responsible
> for the
> atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his
regime,
> why
> doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His
coming
> back may
> be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the
UPC
> members
> who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths
in
> Luwero
> and elsewhere in the country.
>
> Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
> >
> > THE Uganda People's Congress (UPC) has said information state
> minister
> > Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the
> people
> > who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya.
> >
> > Speaking on phone, UPC's defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo,
> yesterday
> > said, "I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other
> than
> > protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who
> threw
> > the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton
Obote
> as
> > he said. Obote is not a killer.
> >
> > "That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from
> the
> > government. We know they have sinister plans for the party
> president.
> > They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
> > public's opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
> > stopping him from coming back," Wegulo said.
> >
> > He was reacting to Buturo's warning on Luweero massacres in which
he
> > said exiled former president Obote should answer for the
atrocities.
>
> >
> > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out
> openly
> > on Obote's return.
> > "This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the
> government.
> > So when the government says such things about him, we have to be
> very
> > careful," Wegulo said.
> >
> > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
> >
> >
> >
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