YES THERE IS SOMEBODY CALLED KONY FIGHTING UGANDA. Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On and on the frustration continues to eat me, when I ask a straight > damn > question and some one decide to rumble all over the place, so I try once > > again "Is there some one called Konny fighting Uganda government in the > > North?" forget UPC forget the human rights, forget the suffering of the > > Acholis, forget what happened in Nakulabye in 1966. This is here and > now, > Is there some one fighting Uganda government in north called Konny? > > GOD!!!! > > Em > Toronto > The Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > The suffering of the people in the north has been and remains a > National > problem. Protection of the citizens of Uganda and their property is one > of > the > cardinal objectives for the existence of any government in Uganda. The > suffering of the people in the north is therefore not just an Acholi > problem > than should be left to the Acholis to capture Kony and hand him over > to > government. > > However UPC as a party and its individual members, does/do not have any > > moral > authority to condemn the human rights abuses by both the government and > by > Kony > because their records were not any better that what we are experiencing > > today. > > Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Bwambuga > > > > On all we have seen in this war, is there some one called Konny > fighting > > > > Uganda government? > > Please educate me. > > > > Em > > Toronto > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:59 AM > > Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > > > > > Bull-Mavi.....belongs to Mr. Kony and the EMPIRE OF CHOOLIS who > dont > > get > > > it.., killings and cutting lips is done by Kony and Achooli > helpers > > but > > > not ..M7. So its very simple...give-up KONY..THE WAR IS DONE. > > CWA.JB > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Friday, July 1, 2005 1:09 pm > > > Subject: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > > > >> Send Ugandanet mailing list submissions to > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > > >> than "Re: Contents of Ugandanet digest..." > > >> > > >> > > >> Today's Topics: > > >> > > >> 1. RE: Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s suffering..by > > >> Yoweri Museveni..brief comment by Matek (Okuto del Coli) > > >> 2. AND UGANDANS CONTINUE TO PRAY (Edward Mulindwa) > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> --- > > >> > > >> Message: 1 > > >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:17:45 -0400 (EDT) > > >> From: "Okuto del Coli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Subject: RE: [Ugnet] Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s > > >> suffering..by Yoweri Museveni..brief comment by Matek > > >> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >> > > >> > > >> The way I understand it, there are some specifically targeted > > >> projectiles. Although the President uses "Acoli", the piece > > >> appears intended for all Ugandan tribes and indeed, fits all > > >> Ugandan tribes. If you slice off the "ACHOLI" and replace it with > > >> any other Ugandan tribes of your own( including Baganda) you will > > >> see that the puzzle matches. Even the Kayiira tragedy falls in > > >> there. I beg to resume in a couple of days with > > >> illustrations.RGDSNoc'l--- On Tue 06/28, Matek Opoko < > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: Matek Opoko [mailto: > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [email protected], > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:25:28 -0700 > > >> (PDT)Subject: [Ugnet] =?iso-8859- > > >> 1?q?Tracing_the_roots_of_the_Acholi_people=92?= =?iso-8859- > > >> 1?q?s_suffering=2E=2Eby_Yoweri_Museveni=2E=2Ebrief_comm?= =?iso- > > >> 8859-1?q?ent_by_Matek?= > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Fellow Citizens: > > >> Sometimes I am simply left with a sense of disbelieve when I > read > > >> and try to comprehend Museveni's Bull Mavi... So Museveni really > > >> thinks this his stupid crap of is going to sell? The fellow is > > >> simply a deranged idiot who does not know what he is talking > > >> about...I hear Acholi suffering is due to " colonial > > >> Manipulations".."Afro-Arab Conflict in Southern Sudan" Lack of > > >> eductation leading to mysticism." ...etc..etc.. The fact of the > > >> matter fellow citizens , is that Museveni createdthe mess in > > >> Northern and Eastern Uganda..and he is yet to pay for this.... > > >> when his bold becomes dek Quiddy!!! > > >> matek > > >> Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s suffering > > >> > > >> Yoweri K. Museveni > > >> > > >> GULU > > >> The suffering of our people in Acholi, in particular, as well as > > >> part of the North-Central part of Uganda in general, has been > > >> occasioned by six factors: colonial manipulation and distortions; > > >> poor leadership; a weak state; bad national politics; the Afro- > > >> Arab conflict in the Sudan; and lack of education leading to > > >> mysticism.When the British were colonizing Uganda, they used the > > >> method of playing one group against another (divide and rule). > > >> Fearing the strength of the Buganda they had expanded at the > > >> expense of Bunyoro, in particular, as well as other parts of > > >> Uganda in general, they started a new scheme of using parts of > the > > >> North against our people in Buganda. They, then, started peddling > > >> certain myths and lies to play one group of our people against > > >> another. For instance, the Baganda were very "clever" people. > They > > >> were not like other natives of Uganda. On the other hand, the > > >> Northerners, the Acholis in particular, were "a martial race" > > >> whose natural ins tincts were skewed > > >> > > >> towards war-like activities. Those lies and distortions went to > > >> the heads of whatever leadership was available at that time > which, > > >> in turn, amplified and spread them to the rest of the > > >> population.Clear thinking leaders should never have countenanced > > >> such trash. It should have been treated with disdain they > deserved > > >> before it led our people to all these sufferings: the 1966 coup > by > > >> Obote against the Constitution; Amin's 1971 coup and the > > >> hemorrhage that went with it; the missed chance of 1979/1980; the > > >> massacres in Luwero (the philosophy of "a good Muganda is a dead > > >> one"); and the demonic madness of Kony, his collaborators and > > >> apologists.Poor leadershipJuxtaposed side by side with the > problem > > >> of colonial distortions and manipulation is the problem of poor > > >> leadership in Acholi. Like many other areas of Uganda, our Acholi > > >> people lacked leaders from within the community to tell, in very > > >> clear language, the trouble makers to go to hell.Buganda, and > > >> other parts of Uganda, for a long time, had the same problem: - > > >> nobody within the respective communities to tell off the trouble- > > >> makers and parasites. My personal experiences highlight this > issue > > >> in two instances: the onset of Idi Amin in 1971 and the problem > of > > >> Obugabe (Kingship in Ankole). Virtually all the citizens of North > > >> Ankole had been DP supporters. They, therefore, jubilated when > > >> Obote was overthrown by Amin. Their simple but erroneous > reasoning > > >> was as follows: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I told off > > >> all my confused compatriots, relatives, friends or previous > > >> collaborators. I could not support an uneducated person to be the > > >> President of Uganda for any > > >> > > >> length of time; moreover, a person that was known to be a killer. > > >> I never aided or abetted Amin for even one day. In so doing I > > >> provided uncompromising leadership against evil, against my very > > >> relatives, friends and close collaborators. More recently, there > > >> was the divisive issue of Obugabe (Kingship) in Ankole. I made it > > >> very clear that either Omugabe was accepted by all sections or we > > >> would allow no Mugabe. That type of leadership has been lacking > in > > >> Acholi, except for some few individuals from this area. How could > > >> leaders accept rape of children, murders, mutilations, > > >> disfigurements, etc? By not condemning loudly the terrorists, > many > > >> Acholi leaders were encouraging the wrong-doers. In fact, they > > >> would say: "let us kill civilians and Government would be > blamed". > > >> Indeed, it would happen - the Government would be condemned and > > >> the killers would either be pampered or covered up. How many > times > > >> did we hear the statements li ke: "It is the Government killing > > >> Acholis and blaming > > >> it on the rebels"? > > >> Weak state The third factor was a weak state, especially the > > >> phenomenon of a one-dimensional national defence force. Modern > > >> Armies are, at least, three-dimensional. A three-dimensional > > >> defence force covers land, sea (lakes) and air - i.e. Army, > > >> Airforce and navy. Owing to the turbulent history of Uganda, the > > >> building of a three dimensional National Defence force was never > > >> achieved. It is only recently that we are tackling this problem. > > >> By 1986 we had a very dedicated land force (infantry mainly). It > > >> was not, however, possible to quickly resolve the terrorism put > > >> out by Kony, supported by certain external forces, only relying > on > > >> this force alone. That is why the struggle had to be protracted. > > >> We are now, finally, solving that problem of a uni-dimensional > > >> national defence force. That is how we have been able to break > the > > >> back of the terrorists. We are continuing to build the three > > >> dimensions of our national defence forces. I can assure Ug andans > > >> that, henceforth, it will not be > > >> > > >> possible for any force to destabilise our democracy using force. > > >> We have the capacity to deal with them promptly unlike in the > past > > >> when we had to engage in this valiant but protracted campaign > > >> against the terrorists. Those in the habit of threatening > violence > > >> had better restrain themselves. The fact that UPDF has been able > > >> not only to cope with the Kony group but to also suppress it, is > a > > >> factor that should give Ugandans peace of mind regarding their > > >> democratic future. We are now going to focus more on corruption > in > > >> relation to State funds, contracts, fair adjudication and abuse > of > > >> office.Bad politicsThe undoing of Uganda right from the days of > > >> colonialism was the problem of bad politics. Bad politics means > > >> politics that is devoid of principles that are designed to uplift > > >> the people of Uganda out of their backwardness. It is politics > > >> that is, instead, aimed at, using the Ugandan people's lack of > > >> information to use them for personal interests to access jobs or > > >> resources. It is politics without vision for transformation. It > is > > >> parasitic politics. The bad politics of Uganda, in particular, > has > > >> been characterized by two elements: lack of belief in democratic > > >> solutions and sectarianism. Why has Kony been killing people? If > > >> he wanted power, ever since1989, when we expanded the NRC, we > have > > >> been having elections. Why couldn't he stand for any post? See > how > > >> we are resolving all outstanding issues: opening the political > > >> space, regional tier, term limits for President, etc. We refer > the > > >> issues to the referenda, Parliament, etc. Wh y should there be > > >> violence? Anybody who > > >> > > >> continues to believe or talk of violence, when there are > > >> democratic options is an enemy of the people and a criminal. The > > >> other element of bad politics is sectarianism, based on tribes, > > >> religion, etc. This is why Obote did not act against Amin even > the > > >> British Governor-General gave him the evidence of all the crimes > > >> he had committed. At that time 1962, there was still the false > > >> groupism of the Northern Region vs the other regions of Uganda. > > >> The consequences were very bitter for Uganda. "Whatever a man > sows > > >> is what he reaps." My stand on such issues is very clear. In > 1989, > > >> I dismissed my own brother, Saleh, from the Army for drunkenness. > > >> Yet, very few people in Uganda could compare with Saleh in > > >> contributing to our struggle. He had, however, lost bearing. I > had > > >> to act. I was, therefore, happy to hear that Rwot Acana > > >> reprimanded the terrorists when he met them near Palabek. That is > > >> part of the medicine. > > >> Afro-Arab conflictThe Afro-Arab conflict in the Sudan is one of > > >> the greatest indignities to the black people. Sudan should be a > > >> great Afro-Arab bridge, where the heritages of the two different > > >> races are accorded equal treatment. Instead, some elements in > > >> Sudan tried to turn it into an Arab bridge-head into Black Africa > - > > >> to convey Arabism and enforced Islamisation into the heartland of > > >> Black Africa. The Black people there, our brothers, waged a > > >> protracted and lonely struggle for their salvation ever since > > >> 1955. When we came into Government in 1986, for some unknown > > >> reasons, the Sudanese Arabs decided to attack us, without any > > >> provocation, on the 22nd of August, 1986, at Bibia. Our Battalion > > >> 28 defeated this attack decisively. However, the attackers, > > >> spurred on by Sudan fanned out and spread the terror to the > > >> countryside.The mistake by the Arabs of Sudan of interfering in > > >> our internal affairs caused us to give strong support to the > SPLA. > > >> As a consequence, the SPLA took over > > >> 90% of Southern Sudan, a land area that is three times the size > of > > >> Uganda. Some other Governments in Africa also extended material > > >> support to the SPLA off and on. The SPLA has, eventually, signed > a > > >> very good agreement with the Sudan Government, thereby liberating > > >> the people of Southern Sudan. The Sudanese Arabs, by supporting > > >> Lakwena and Kony, created a lot of problems for us, but they also > > >> created a lot of problems for themselves and a hope of freedom > for > > >> our Black brothers in Southern Sudan. Having realized the > futility > > >> and counter productiveness of their support for Kony, the > Sudanese > > >> Arabs, starting with 2002, agreed to end support for Kony. Some > > >> clandestine support for Kony continued until about one year ago. > > >> Without Sudan supporting Lakwena, Kony, and others, there would > > >> have been no terrorism in Northern Uganda, in West Nile, in the > > >> Rwenzori region, etc. However, possibly, there would not have > been > > >> the liberation of Southern Sudan either. Should we conclude that > > >> God > > >> works in mysterious ways? > > >> Lack of Education There seems to be a lot of superstition in > > >> Acholi that can be manipulated by the crooks like Kony. This is > an > > >> unfortunate result of limited education. The Movement has > > >> introduced Universal Education in the form of UPE. We have built > > >> Gulu University, etc. We shall get rid of illiteracy. However, > the > > >> Acholi leaders and religious leaders must help us with the > > >> superstition.The Movement and the UPDF have stood with you (the > > >> people of Acholi) throughout this in addition to our previous > > >> stand against Idi Amin, Milton Obote, etc. We support right, > > >> oppose wrong, unite as many people as can be united to isolate > the > > >> enemy to the maximum. You all can see that our firm stand is, > > >> finally and irreversibly, bringing peace.We have a rehabilitation > > >> plan as soon as the scattered remnants are accounted for. > > >> *This is an edited version of a speech President Museveni gave at > > >> a retreat for Acholi leaders at Paraa Lodge on June > > >> 26.__________________________________________________Do You > > >> Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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