Just like I moved on with the Obote-Kabaka sponsorship issue!! Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Any reason I do not move on about right now? > > Em > Toronto > The Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > YES THERE IS SOMEBODY CALLED KONY FIGHTING UGANDA. > > Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On and on the frustration continues to eat me, when I ask a straight > > damn > > question and some one decide to rumble all over the place, so I try > once > > > > again "Is there some one called Konny fighting Uganda government in > the > > > > North?" forget UPC forget the human rights, forget the suffering of > the > > > > Acholis, forget what happened in Nakulabye in 1966. This is here > and > > now, > > Is there some one fighting Uganda government in north called Konny? > > > > GOD!!!! > > > > Em > > Toronto > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > > > > The suffering of the people in the north has been and remains a > > National > > problem. Protection of the citizens of Uganda and their property is > one > > of > > the > > cardinal objectives for the existence of any government in Uganda. > The > > suffering of the people in the north is therefore not just an Acholi > > problem > > than should be left to the Acholis to capture Kony and hand him over > > to > > government. > > > > However UPC as a party and its individual members, does/do not have > any > > > > moral > > authority to condemn the human rights abuses by both the government > and > > by > > Kony > > because their records were not any better that what we are > experiencing > > > > today. > > > > Quoting Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Bwambuga > > > > > > On all we have seen in this war, is there some one called Konny > > fighting > > > > > > Uganda government? > > > Please educate me. > > > > > > Em > > > Toronto > > > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > > > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:59 AM > > > Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > > > > > > > > Bull-Mavi.....belongs to Mr. Kony and the EMPIRE OF CHOOLIS who > > dont > > > get > > > > it.., killings and cutting lips is done by Kony and Achooli > > helpers > > > but > > > > not ..M7. So its very simple...give-up KONY..THE WAR IS DONE. > > > CWA.JB > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Date: Friday, July 1, 2005 1:09 pm > > > > Subject: Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > > > > > >> Send Ugandanet mailing list submissions to > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > > specific > > > >> than "Re: Contents of Ugandanet digest..." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Today's Topics: > > > >> > > > >> 1. RE: Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s suffering..by > > > >> Yoweri Museveni..brief comment by Matek (Okuto del Coli) > > > >> 2. AND UGANDANS CONTINUE TO PRAY (Edward Mulindwa) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> --- > > > >> > > > >> Message: 1 > > > >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:17:45 -0400 (EDT) > > > >> From: "Okuto del Coli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Subject: RE: [Ugnet] Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s > > > >> suffering..by Yoweri Museveni..brief comment by Matek > > > >> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The way I understand it, there are some specifically targeted > > > >> projectiles. Although the President uses "Acoli", the piece > > > >> appears intended for all Ugandan tribes and indeed, fits all > > > >> Ugandan tribes. If you slice off the "ACHOLI" and replace it > with > > > >> any other Ugandan tribes of your own( including Baganda) you > will > > > >> see that the puzzle matches. Even the Kayiira tragedy falls in > > > >> there. I beg to resume in a couple of days with > > > >> illustrations.RGDSNoc'l--- On Tue 06/28, Matek Opoko < > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: Matek Opoko [mailto: > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [email protected], > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:25:28 -0700 > > > >> (PDT)Subject: [Ugnet] =?iso-8859- > > > >> 1?q?Tracing_the_roots_of_the_Acholi_people=92?= =?iso-8859- > > > >> 1?q?s_suffering=2E=2Eby_Yoweri_Museveni=2E=2Ebrief_comm?= > =?iso- > > > >> 8859-1?q?ent_by_Matek?= > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Fellow Citizens: > > > >> Sometimes I am simply left with a sense of disbelieve when I > > read > > > >> and try to comprehend Museveni's Bull Mavi... So Museveni > really > > > >> thinks this his stupid crap of is going to sell? The fellow > is > > > >> simply a deranged idiot who does not know what he is talking > > > >> about...I hear Acholi suffering is due to " colonial > > > >> Manipulations".."Afro-Arab Conflict in Southern Sudan" Lack of > > > >> eductation leading to mysticism." ...etc..etc.. The fact of > the > > > >> matter fellow citizens , is that Museveni createdthe mess in > > > >> Northern and Eastern Uganda..and he is yet to pay for this.... > > > >> when his bold becomes dek Quiddy!!! > > > >> matek > > > >> Tracing the roots of the Acholi people?s suffering > > > >> > > > >> Yoweri K. Museveni > > > >> > > > >> GULU > > > >> The suffering of our people in Acholi, in particular, as well > as > > > >> part of the North-Central part of Uganda in general, has been > > > >> occasioned by six factors: colonial manipulation and > distortions; > > > >> poor leadership; a weak state; bad national politics; the Afro- > > > >> Arab conflict in the Sudan; and lack of education leading to > > > >> mysticism.When the British were colonizing Uganda, they used > the > > > >> method of playing one group against another (divide and rule). > > > >> Fearing the strength of the Buganda they had expanded at the > > > >> expense of Bunyoro, in particular, as well as other parts of > > > >> Uganda in general, they started a new scheme of using parts of > > the > > > >> North against our people in Buganda. They, then, started > peddling > > > >> certain myths and lies to play one group of our people against > > > >> another. For instance, the Baganda were very "clever" people. > > They > > > >> were not like other natives of Uganda. On the other hand, the > > > >> Northerners, the Acholis in particular, were "a martial race" > > > >> whose natural ins tincts were skewed > > > >> > > > >> towards war-like activities. Those lies and distortions went to > > > >> the heads of whatever leadership was available at that time > > which, > > > >> in turn, amplified and spread them to the rest of the > > > >> population.Clear thinking leaders should never have > countenanced > > > >> such trash. It should have been treated with disdain they > > deserved > > > >> before it led our people to all these sufferings: the 1966 coup > > by > > > >> Obote against the Constitution; Amin's 1971 coup and the > > > >> hemorrhage that went with it; the missed chance of 1979/1980; > the > > > >> massacres in Luwero (the philosophy of "a good Muganda is a > dead > > > >> one"); and the demonic madness of Kony, his collaborators and > > > >> apologists.Poor leadershipJuxtaposed side by side with the > > problem > > > >> of colonial distortions and manipulation is the problem of poor > > > >> leadership in Acholi. Like many other areas of Uganda, our > Acholi > > > >> people lacked leaders from within the community to tell, in > very > > > >> clear language, the trouble makers to go to hell.Buganda, and > > > >> other parts of Uganda, for a long time, had the same problem: - > > > >> nobody within the respective communities to tell off the > trouble- > > > >> makers and parasites. My personal experiences highlight this > > issue > > > >> in two instances: the onset of Idi Amin in 1971 and the problem > > of > > > >> Obugabe (Kingship in Ankole). Virtually all the citizens of > North > > > >> Ankole had been DP supporters. They, therefore, jubilated when > > > >> Obote was overthrown by Amin. Their simple but erroneous > > reasoning > > > >> was as follows: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I told > off > > > >> all my confused compatriots, relatives, friends or previous > > > >> collaborators. I could not support an uneducated person to be > the > > > >> President of Uganda for any > > > >> > > > >> length of time; moreover, a person that was known to be a > killer. > > > >> I never aided or abetted Amin for even one day. In so doing I > > > >> provided uncompromising leadership against evil, against my > very > > > >> relatives, friends and close collaborators. More recently, > there > > > >> was the divisive issue of Obugabe (Kingship) in Ankole. I made > it > > > >> very clear that either Omugabe was accepted by all sections or > we > > > >> would allow no Mugabe. That type of leadership has been lacking > > in > > > >> Acholi, except for some few individuals from this area. How > could > > > >> leaders accept rape of children, murders, mutilations, > > > >> disfigurements, etc? By not condemning loudly the terrorists, > > many > > > >> Acholi leaders were encouraging the wrong-doers. In fact, they > > > >> would say: "let us kill civilians and Government would be > > blamed". > > > >> Indeed, it would happen - the Government would be condemned and > > > >> the killers would either be pampered or covered up. How many > > times > > > >> did we hear the statements li ke: "It is the Government killing > > > >> Acholis and blaming > > > >> it on the rebels"? > > > >> Weak state The third factor was a weak state, especially the > > > >> phenomenon of a one-dimensional national defence force. Modern > > > >> Armies are, at least, three-dimensional. A three-dimensional > > > >> defence force covers land, sea (lakes) and air - i.e. Army, > > > >> Airforce and navy. Owing to the turbulent history of Uganda, > the > > > >> building of a three dimensional National Defence force was > never > > > >> achieved. It is only recently that we are tackling this > problem. > > > >> By 1986 we had a very dedicated land force (infantry mainly). > It > > > >> was not, however, possible to quickly resolve the terrorism put > > > >> out by Kony, supported by certain external forces, only relying > > on > > > >> this force alone. That is why the struggle had to be > protracted. > > > >> We are now, finally, solving that problem of a uni-dimensional > > > >> national defence force. That is how we have been able to break > > the > > > >> back of the terrorists. We are continuing to build the three > > > >> dimensions of our national defence forces. I can assure Ug > andans > > > >> that, henceforth, it will not be > > > >> > > > >> possible for any force to destabilise our democracy using > force. > > > >> We have the capacity to deal with them promptly unlike in the > > past > > > >> when we had to engage in this valiant but protracted campaign > > > >> against the terrorists. Those in the habit of threatening > > violence > > > >> had better restrain themselves. The fact that UPDF has been > able > > > >> not only to cope with the Kony group but to also suppress it, > is > > a > > > >> factor that should give Ugandans peace of mind regarding their > > > >> democratic future. We are now going to focus more on corruption > > in > > > >> relation to State funds, contracts, fair adjudication and abuse > > of > > > >> office.Bad politicsThe undoing of Uganda right from the days of > > > >> colonialism was the problem of bad politics. Bad politics means > > > >> politics that is devoid of principles that are designed to > uplift > > > >> the people of Uganda out of their backwardness. It is politics > > > >> that is, instead, aimed at, using the Ugandan people's lack of > > > >> information to use them for personal interests to access jobs > or > > > >> resources. It is politics without vision for transformation. It > > is > > > >> parasitic politics. The bad politics of Uganda, in particular, > > has > > > >> been characterized by two elements: lack of belief in > democratic > > > >> solutions and sectarianism. Why has Kony been killing people? > If > > > >> he wanted power, ever since1989, when we expanded the NRC, we > > have > > > >> been having elections. Why couldn't he stand for any post? See > > how > > > >> we are resolving all outstanding issues: opening the political > > > >> space, regional tier, term limits for President, etc. We refer > > the > > > >> issues to the referenda, Parliament, etc. Wh y should there be > > > >> violence? Anybody who > > > >> > > > >> continues to believe or talk of violence, when there are > > > >> democratic options is an enemy of the people and a criminal. > The > > > >> other element of bad politics is sectarianism, based on tribes, > > > >> religion, etc. This is why Obote did not act against Amin even > > the > > > >> British Governor-General gave him the evidence of all the > crimes > > > >> he had committed. At that time 1962, there was still the false > > > >> groupism of the Northern Region vs the other regions of Uganda. > > > >> The consequences were very bitter for Uganda. "Whatever a man > > sows > > > >> is what he reaps." My stand on such issues is very clear. In > > 1989, > > > >> I dismissed my own brother, Saleh, from the Army for > drunkenness. > > > >> Yet, very few people in Uganda could compare with Saleh in > > > >> contributing to our struggle. He had, however, lost bearing. I > > had > > > >> to act. I was, therefore, happy to hear that Rwot Acana > > > >> reprimanded the terrorists when he met them near Palabek. That > is > > > >> part of the medicine. > > > >> Afro-Arab conflictThe Afro-Arab conflict in the Sudan is one of > > > >> the greatest indignities to the black people. Sudan should be a > > > >> great Afro-Arab bridge, where the heritages of the two > different > > > >> races are accorded equal treatment. Instead, some elements in > > > >> Sudan tried to turn it into an Arab bridge-head into Black > Africa > > - > > > >> to convey Arabism and enforced Islamisation into the heartland > of > > > >> Black Africa. The Black people there, our brothers, waged a > > > >> protracted and lonely struggle for their salvation ever since > > > >> 1955. When we came into Government in 1986, for some unknown > > > >> reasons, the Sudanese Arabs decided to attack us, without any > > > >> provocation, on the 22nd of August, 1986, at Bibia. Our > Battalion > > > >> 28 defeated this attack decisively. However, the attackers, > > > >> spurred on by Sudan fanned out and spread the terror to the > > > >> countryside.The mistake by the Arabs of Sudan of interfering in > > > >> our internal affairs caused us to give strong support to the > > SPLA. > > > >> As a consequence, the SPLA took over > > > >> 90% of Southern Sudan, a land area that is three times the size > > of > > > >> Uganda. Some other Governments in Africa also extended material > > > >> support to the SPLA off and on. The SPLA has, eventually, > signed > > a > > > >> very good agreement with the Sudan Government, thereby > liberating > > > >> the people of Southern Sudan. The Sudanese Arabs, by supporting > > > >> Lakwena and Kony, created a lot of problems for us, but they > also > > > >> created a lot of problems for themselves and a hope of freedom > > for > > > >> our Black brothers in Southern Sudan. Having realized the > > futility > > > >> and counter productiveness of their support for Kony, the > > Sudanese > > > >> Arabs, starting with 2002, agreed to end support for Kony. Some > > > >> clandestine support for Kony continued until about one year > ago. > > > >> Without Sudan supporting Lakwena, Kony, and others, there would > > > >> have been no terrorism in Northern Uganda, in West Nile, in the > > > >> Rwenzori region, etc. However, possibly, there would not have > > been > > > >> the liberation of Southern Sudan either. Should we conclude > that > > > >> God > > > >> works in mysterious ways? > > > >> Lack of Education There seems to be a lot of superstition in > > > >> Acholi that can be manipulated by the crooks like Kony. This is > > an > > > >> unfortunate result of limited education. The Movement has > > > >> introduced Universal Education in the form of UPE. We have > built > > > >> Gulu University, etc. We shall get rid of illiteracy. However, > > the > > > >> Acholi leaders and religious leaders must help us with the > > > >> superstition.The Movement and the UPDF have stood with you (the > > > >> people of Acholi) throughout this in addition to our previous > > > >> stand against Idi Amin, Milton Obote, etc. We support right, > > > >> oppose wrong, unite as many people as can be united to isolate > > the > > > >> enemy to the maximum. You all can see that our firm stand is, > > > >> finally and irreversibly, bringing peace.We have a > rehabilitation > > > >> plan as soon as the scattered remnants are accounted for. > > > >> *This is an edited version of a speech President Museveni gave > at > > > >> a retreat for Acholi leaders at Paraa Lodge on June > > > >> 26.__________________________________________________Do You > > > >> Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > > > >> around http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >> _______________________________________________Ugandanet > mailing > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% > > > UGANDANET > > > >> is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > > >> Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> > > > > > > http://kym.net/pipermail/ugandanet/attachments/20050701/db9af58e/attachment.htm l > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 2 > > > >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:08:31 -0400 > > > >> From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Subject: [Ugnet] AND UGANDANS CONTINUE TO PRAY > > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Cc: [email protected] > > > >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Our father, Who art in FDC Hallowed be Mugisha Muntu Thy > > > >> leadership come Thy will be done to Corruption As it is to > > > >> Embezzlement Give us your ideas, our only stand And forgive > > > >> Museveni As we forgive the so called Movementists Lead us not > > into > > > >> third term But deliver us from it For thine is the Leadership > > Eria > > > >> Kategaya, Salaamu Musumba, Maria Matembe are yours Now and > > forever > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> AMEN > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The Mulindwas Communication Group > > > >> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > > >> Groupe de communication Mulindwas > > > >> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> > > > > > > http://kym.net/pipermail/ugandanet/attachments/20050701/866c3e63/attachment.htm l > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Ugandanet mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> End of Ugandanet Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > > >> ***************************************** > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Ugandanet mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > > > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ugandanet mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > > \\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a > second > > rate > > version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" > > > > Njoki Paul > > University of Pretoria > > _______________________________________________ > > Ugandanet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ugandanet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > \\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second > rate > version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" > > Njoki Paul > University of Pretoria > _______________________________________________ > Ugandanet mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ugandanet mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > \\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" Njoki Paul University of Pretoria _______________________________________________ Ugandanet mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
