No bwana Ocii, perhaps you got an exceptional ability to misunderstand me. You do not seem to have gotten me right, unfortunately. Perhaps stubbornly so. The situation in context is not particularly akin to any specific regime only. Hence, merely regime change may not amount to an anodyne. You could take any regime (Ugandan or African) and labor out whether the regime brought corruption to the society or the corrupt society (rd. PEOPLE) hatched forth the corrupt regime. Quite frankly it is deeper than the regimes. In which regards, the initial post independence regimes ( or post colonial regimes) bear the brunt of the blames for prevalent impact. In which case, the UPC regimes were no exception. The first post colonial regimes got too much credits for what they did not do. They inherited colonial mantles: colonial infrastructures, culture and economy and, that was about it. On the surface, it appeared like they created jobs opportunities. But that was deceptive. In reality, they merely replaced colonial personnel and added to it un-financed post in a best client-patron style. And after the replacements were fulfilled, that was about it! A similar situation occurred during Idi Amins "MAFUTA MINGI" when we saw government reallocation of Asian and foreign businesses to Ugandan (without restrain, for that matter). After the new business class had sold whatever was in stock and bonds, that was it!! Since most regime changes in Uganda and Africa occur through coup de tar, short sighted job opportunities are created after military coups. Your sectoral perspective / attitude tells it all. For example, if your type of mentality takes control of state power, disaster would impact ( inevitably so). Apparently, some sections of your favor would applaud in rapture while others will feel decimated or marginalized and heel for the bush and, the same circle would continue. People who grow up like I did under perfect multi racial environment do not often respond to isms such as tribalism or similar sectoral extremes. Even while still in Uganda I always felt and considered myself Ugandan. I know politics always entail confrontation but, it has to be guided such and does not absolutely have to mean vandalization or liquidation of dissidents as your seem to suggest. Perhaps I miss understood you?!As this is a similar issue to that of the scholar you forwarded, please read my contribution to that. I am working on it.Best regardsnoc'l gau--- On Sat 08/11, ocii < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: ocii [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:51:02 -0400 (EDT)Subject: Re: [Ugnet] FOOL ME GOOD!! Huh, Gau, "Talking to Ugandan has made me become more convinced than ever, that stagnation, negative development, political vandalism, corruption, nepotism, tribalism......(help me draw the list: add any of your own, it will fit)...., permeates our continent because we are African. " "Like I was saying, talking to Ugandan has made me open my eyes."? You are way too slow and in the process, have defended a very wrong government that has killed the country generally for the last 20+ years! Do you see yourself being guilty or ignorant here? Me think you are not ignorant; you are well educated! Besides, you have lived in the Scandinavia for years and should have learnt how real government works! The system Mu7 put in Uganda was and is a system rooted on hate toward northerners and easterners. It was not a system that was designed to re-shape the country, politically, economically or even sociallly, towards the idealism of marxism. Mu7 was a pseudo marxist who did not even understand marx's ideology!! Plainly a punk, who has killed our country; sold it to the highest bidders, leaving indigents more wretched than ever before. These people must go, and all one by one collected and punished to send a clear message to any would-be idiot!: Play with the country and its economy and we cut your head! Plain and simple. No more dilly-dallying with economic and political idiots! OciiOkuto del Coli wrote:
FOOL ME GOOD SITUATION.Yes I go frank, O.K!!! I am convinced. The mite of the "chicken and egg" situation is no longer a silhouette clouding African horizon. It is live and deadly paralyzing all institution. We have always known about ambivalences in life.That politics is always and at all times ambivalent. But when criminality and correctness is but an object for definition, we know time has come for the surgeon to operate himself.Talking to Ugandan has made me become more convinced than ever, that stagnation, negative development, political vandalism, corruption, nepotism, tribalism......(help me draw the list: add any of your own, it will fit)...., permeates our continent because we are African. YET, IT IS NOT BIOLOGICAL!!!! Our politicians are corrupt because they are still one of our type That is where the chicken and egg situation comes in. Which one came first?! Our corrupt leaders leaders or corrupt society?!Like I was saying, talking to Ugandan has made me open my eyes. LOOK AT THIS KNOCK-OUT:I asked about a honest obedient civil servant I used to know in KCC. A man of correctness. A democracy personified and the Ugandan answered:".....Aah Laduma, that one.., don't even ask about him. That idiot is just there working, working, working. The guy is sitting on jackpot and he is just working working working...He doesn't even know how to eat!! Everybody is eating and himself he is just working working working. Me if they put me in that position.., hm-mm, one day only..., I will be the riches man in Uganda....Is just joking.,playing. If they put me there, I will tear the damn place completely..."I stared at my fellow Uganda with pity and dismay. How pathetic! I realized Ugandan think differently. Here is Ugandan commoner (just coming direct from home) talking. So in his world corruption, embezzlement etc are not only accepted norm but also something respected. Hmm what a world. The one who has not cheated remains a bullshit until he cheats.How about this:Senior government officials (so called upper class) parties. A senior police officers says about a ministers son:".......Man if you see A's son, wow that guy is though. I am telling you, that boy can drive.....Man, I saw boy last week take the fathers Pajero. Oh boy, what a speed!!.....I am telling you the guy tore from Kololo to Masaka....., one hour only and he was back. I tell you the guy can drive...Hmmm, he is so short he sits on pillows to see the road but, he tears..."That is really pathetic is it not?! Here is a senior government police officer. A trained body guard talking. A law enforcement officer talking about a boy who is barely thirteen (13!!!!!).First of all, he should have ensured that the boy NEVER drives at that age. More so, never drives without a drivers license. Yet further, he should have the boy's father ( in this case the minister) answerable for allowing the son drive his car unlawfully. Instead, he is proud of and applaud the criminal.Yes that is the soil!!joyficateNoc'l gaumoy No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com _______________________________________________Ugandanet mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.--------------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
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