If I were an LRA stalwart, I would not waste time with all these nonsense that
they are going to pay for with their life at the end of the journey!
Have you ever gone fishing? That is how ridiculous this stupidity is; and if
like you opine, those manning the peace process are UPC, then there isn't any
wonder that the party is gasping for air to keep alive.
I seriously worry about UPC minus Dr. Obote!
The point I am trying to raise however is that this peace process is bullshit
considering the wider schemes of politics and economics.
The trouble is, there are many Ugandans who don't know the problems
bedevilling the country, but would rather be in the forefront of, to solve it.
How can one solve what one does not know?
And this is the reason Mu7 smiles all the time. Because the language he and
his colonial masters speak, the native so called educated don't understand. Now
what of Kony and Otti, who, like Charles opined, if true, uses mobile phones
handed to them by Mu7??
Not even funny!
Ocii
NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Why go far ? The silhouette is all over
Right in front of the noses!! Soon
they (the opposition) will sigh all sorts of impossible M7aphobia. Look at what
is happening in Kampala: LRAs reconciliation spectacle.
When it is complete, you may as well conclude the 2011 election is won
(already) by the movement!!!
That is a fact. Unless the opposition pulls some remote spectacular draw.
But, judging from the nature of situation just now, that is just as remote as
it is obscure.
This is a majestic happening now, super draw!! Although the LRAs team at Juba
(now in Uganda) is UPC right through, it will not be so by 2011.
WORDS!!!!
Beyond that, it does not matter what intelligent observertorum there are.
As regards the Apac tragedy, my own spontaneous position is that whatever the
circumstance, NO CITIZEN SHOULD TAKE THE LAW IN HIS / HER OWN HAND. It is the
responsibility of respective institution to guarantee that.
INCITED OR NOT INCITED IS ANOTHER FIVE!!
Is that not what all so-called political establishments are striving towards?
And what a coincidence; just when the ministry concerned are busy welcoming
Their Satanic Bloodsuckers, the mystified political interests that have for two
decades been masking their wicked intentions and inciting the LRA to terrorise
Ugandan?!? Any keen observer can now see the mystified political intra-actors
that have for decades been free riding on Ugandan sentiments.
For decades, they have been fooling Ugandan. For two decades they have been
distorting reality whilst in actual fact, they were the ones fuelling LRA
aggression. For two decades they have been masking. Never coming out in the
open to declare their sympathy with the LRA. They made certain category of
Ugandan believe that the LRA was just a bunch of illiterate blodtorstiga
vampyrer controlled by the NRA when in fact, there was another method to the
madness. Orchestrated by intelligent Ugandan.
The question is, is it a coincidence? Could ordinary academics just in a
flush take control of the LRA negotiation team? Were they part and parcel? Is
it a co incidence that the UPC is over represented in the LRA team?
Those keen can consult the net archives. There was an interview of Obote by
some Ochan. Those who one-sidedly conclude that the LRA was / is a NRA art
should better study the team. Could the NRA BE THE ARCHITECTS OF A UPC
DOMINATED terror organisation?
THERE IS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS!!!
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:30:52 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Samaritan, what / who is Mulaaloo?!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emmy,
People in opposition always seem fixeted with this belief that any African
government needs numbers for election. They DO NOT and I repeat they DO NOT.
For Museveni to keep ruling he does not need to import aliens from the Congo or
Rwanda to vote for him. Obote was accused of rigging elections in 1980, did he
bring Nilotics from the Sudan in order to claim he won. When Museveni changed
the constitution did he invite Kamba from Kenya to cover up the operation that
he had numbers? When he refused political parties to function for years did he
invite Katangese to help him out? Museveni does not even need to hold any
elections, he can simply declare a state of emergency in 2011 making public
gathering for elections a security risk and nobody would challenge him on that.
The opposition has been given so many practical solutions (1) federalism is
viable solution which renders the 2011 election irrelevant and a non issue. (2)
Secession, you have three people in Uganda: Mao, Kyanjo and Betty who are
advocating for this openly. Thus nullifies and makes the 2011 elections
irrelevant (3) Military operation which returns people to the jungles of
Luweero (4) Peaceful mediation of the conflict, building on the Juba possible
success and potentially keep Uganda is one nation, but with modified political,
social and economic structure acceptable by all Ugandans.
OJ
Emmy Wasirwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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ocii,
Dont you think they are being prepared for election come 2011. I am just being
curious.
Emmy
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:19:20 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samaritan, what / who is Mulaaloo?!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [email protected]
Gau,
"what does it take a Mulaloo to become a Ugandan citizen?"
Sometime I wonder really! Do you realise that there are Ugandan Balaalos, DR.
Congo Balaalos ( Banyamulenge and Hemas); Rwandese and Burundi Balaalos?
Lets remove the Term "Mulaloo" and replace it with "Acholi", & Kenya as the
country of reference, may be then you will notce the ridiculousness of the
question. It will read:
"what does it take an Acholi to become a Kenyan citizen?"
We have Luo in Kenya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Central Africa, etc, just like
Balaalos have cousins in Uganda, DR. Congo, Rwanda, Burundi!
Why should an Acholi become a Kenyan?
Why should a Rwandese, Congolese, Burundian, Mulaalo become a Ugandan
Mulaalo? Are you suggesting that all Balaalos become Ugandans?? If so why?
These people have their homes where they used to live in, peacefully! They
cannot cause genocide in their own homes then run away to acquire citzenship
some place else! What are laws for? African cannot resort to silly immigration
policies.
If you ran away from your home, like the non-Ugandan Balaalos, for political
reasons, then you automatically become a refugee, should your claim be
accepted! You cannot become a citizen! Granting citizenship by African
governments, to an entire ethnic population, cannot obviously be the way
forward.
These Non-Ugandan Balaalos have their homes. If they screwed it up and are
now runing away from, to come to Uganda, Ugandans have every right to know why
they screwed their homes up! We cannot just grant them citizenship!
It all boils down to what did you do in your own home to force you to run
away from, before any considerations can be granted! Mind you, the Balaalos'
seeminging migration is not just about one or two member of a family running
away! This seems mass migration!
If they were not mass migrating before, then why mass migrate now??
We all want African solidarity. But encouraging flaws is not the way to go.
Ocii
Many times your logic are so wacked!
Ocii
NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Would any Samaritan out there reach out while we others shield from blood:
WHAT ARE THE LAWS OR COMBINATIONS OF, THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY EFFECTIVE FOR OR
AGAINST THE BALALOO?
I guess on the forum are scholars from our various centres of learning in
Uganda as well as our national institutions of government.
Particularly, what are the law combinations restricting a Ugandans liberty
to settlement in Uganda?
What are the provisions of immigration laws / legislation in as far as the
Balaloo are concerned?
II identify certain unrsolved factors that keep poping up in the debates :
NATIONALITY, SIZE / NUMBER , BENEFIT, LEGAL POSSESSION (RIGHT TO SELF
DETERMINATION OVER PROPERTY
Some time back, some one inquired here on the forum, what the prerequisites
for becoming a Muganda. I suppose that is just as viable now with the so called
Balaloo:
what does it take a Mulaloo to become a Ugandan citizen?
Even if I do not precisely know what these Balaloo are (at one moment the
level of humiliation is that they are pastoral Ugandan. At another, the
derogation is that they are aliens), spontaneously, I bear with Desmond & co.
Unfortunately, there are various affiliations with spectacularly vested
interest at play. Alienation of Balaloos then becomes the open denominator.
Under the surface is a whole ocean of masked vendettas like: FEDEROS,
NATIONALISTS, DEMOCRATS, TRIBALISTS, REGIONAL SECTARIANS etc.
So scholars, tell us, what is that make Balaoos non-Ugandan! What laws
restrict pastoral movements? I am aware it is not so much their settling
anywhere in Uganda but the manner they ACQUIRE the new pasture that is the
central issue. If so what is the alienation about?
My great grand father Laula Ojwang used to say, Gau every where you go, you
are a foreigner: every where you go there is people you going to meet: Dont
turn your back on the man because he comes from another land; hold out your
hands and speak.
In their days from the lines of Nyipir and Labongo, they had customarily
solved their immigration problems simplistically:
Opii en aye opii; kitino pa opii pe opii. Translated in English it
corresponds to: THE SLAVE IS A SLAVE; THE CHILDREN OF THE SLAVE ARE NOT
SLAVES
To me, a central action from the political establishment should be to
identify feasible methods.
Whilst any Ugandan is free to settle any where in Uganda, they should take
consideration of the hospitality of the native customs. They cannot just come
into some customs and want to take over instead of assimilating and together
developing the culture. In which case, the number /size of the settlers matter.
It should not be of such a proportion that the native does not contain. Equally
so, some fair contrast between the customs.
They the politicians must come out with a functional structure where the
owners of the land themselves both benefit from and initiate the settlement.
There must be viable formulae for dialogue!!
noc'la gau
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