Ggwe Olara Otunnu
We need an industry built on the grass right behind your ass, that grass has been like that for ion years when an industry on it would have given a job to a Uganda kid that has ended up being a Bodaboda operator, so cut the crap sir. http://youtu.be/vpgAP3pOTbA No sorry I should have called it noise my apology. EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of derek Nyero aka. ladujah Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:54 AM To: Ugandaatheart Ug Subject: RE: {UAH} FW: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza http://youtu.be/vpgAP3pOTbA Olara Otunnu at Capitol Hill Derek > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:26:08 +0300 > Subject: Re: {UAH} FW: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > You aredamn right Yoga Adhola. > > On 7/17/13, Yoga Adhola <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:43:41 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Komakech > > > > My view is that anybody who reaches a point of rejecting the regime and > > wishes to fight it should be welcome. I don't see any opportunism in this. > > General Tinyefunza , in my view, has completely cut off his links with the > > regime. It is very clear that the regime treats him as an enemy. > > > > You wrote: > > > > "1. It is false argument that anyone can work against the NRM > > regime using the very elements within the regime. Clearly, we have > > examples of Besigye, Mugisha Muntu, Col Mande and now Tinyefuza. How > > much have you or Ugandans gained from them, other than Besigye's almost > > single handed attempts at exposing and discrediting your NRM-O?" > > > > Whatver one may say about Dr Besigye, ther is no dubt he has waged his > > truggles gaianstthe regime. this is there for everybody tosee. And please it > > is totally unfair of you to say that Besigye is an element of the regime. he > > cannot be an element of the regime and he is treated they way he hasbeen > > treated. Also whatver one may disgaree with Col mande, he is certainly not > > part of the NRM regime. You pose the question: "How > > much have you or Ugandans gained from them..." Inraisng this question, what > > answer do you expect? In any case the same question can be raisd about > > anybody including you, Mr Morris Komakaeck. how much have we gained from > > you? > > > > You wrote: > > > > "4. > > It is amazing how you call our moves silly, considering your many > > claims that you have been at Capitol Hill and you understand how these > > systems work." > > > > > > I am not a fool to waste my time going to capital Hill. I have explained > > this over and over. Museveni is the best tool the US has had and probably > > will ever have have. he serves their geo-political strategy. It is only a > > fool who thinks the US will abandon such a tool for things like human rights > > abuses. Please re-read my article on Olara Otuunu in the Independent. Wit > > this kind of clarity of mind, why would I waste my time going to capital > > Hill? Don't I have something to do? that kind ofgoingto capital Hill is left > > for people like Olara Otuunu. > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > "5. > > Finally, UPC and all the so-called opposition parties have become > > increasingly opportunistic and are incapable of holding the regime and > > its minders accountable on any human rights or constitutional > > violations." > > > > > > Are we to understand you have given up on Olaraa Otuunu? Wow!!!! > > > > > > You also wrote: > > > > > > " This explains why most human rights reports appear mostly > > credible when reported by external agencies, such as HRW or Amnesty > > International." > > > > You still have to learn who agencies these orgainisations are. Your naivety > > is really deep. Wow!!! > > > > > > You further wrote: > > > > "It is not strange that Canada is listening!" > > > > I remember Olara Otuunu and some of his running dogs like you and Ocaya > > p'Ocure were one time telling us about Hillary Clinton setting up > > commissions to monitor the elections in Uganda. What happened? > > > > > > Yoga Adhola.Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:17:13 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza > > > > Yoga Adhola in particular and other Comrades, > > Your perceptions of your reality are a continuous evolution of what unfolds > > before your subjective self, and so are ours. On the matter of Tinyefuza, it > > is a subject that was widely discussed and indeed, it was decided that; > > 1. It is false argument that anyone can work against the NRM regime using > > the very elements within the regime. Clearly, we have examples of Besigye, > > Mugisha Muntu, Col Mande and now Tinyefuza. How much have you or Ugandans > > gained from them, other than Besigye's almost single handed attempts at > > exposing and discrediting your NRM-O? > > 2. That it is opportunistic for some of us to forget > > so easily about the cruelty and the harshness with which the Tinyefuzas, > > Kagames and others inflicted on Northern Uganda. Tinyefuza was a major > > player and therefore he must be held accountable and made example of. From > > our experiences and realities, these are not silly decisions. They form our > > realities. > > 3. It is very important to send a message to the likes of Kayihura, Omala, > > Kaweesi and those depriving Ugandans of their constitutional rights that > > there is always a time to be held accountable. > > 4. It is amazing how you call our moves silly, considering your many claims > > that you have been at Capitol Hill and you understand how these systems > > work. We also understand how Ottawa works and just to correct you, we did > > petition Ottawa on Tinyefuza's war crimes records that must be investigated. > > A copy of our petition was published in the Redpepper. There are particular > > clauses in the immigration act which places scrutiny over anyone suspected > > of crimes against humanity, including genocide for exclusion, and where > > possible, prosecution. It is those that we begged to get activated. People > > should not be let to run free unaccounted for their evil doings. > > 5. Finally, UPC and all the so-called opposition parties have become > > increasingly opportunistic and are incapable of holding the regime and its > > minders accountable on any human rights or constitutional violations. This > > explains why most human rights reports appear mostly credible when reported > > by external agencies, such as HRW or Amnesty International. Most of UPC's > > so-called leaders are already in the pockets of the NRM and we know that > > they are being used to cripple or undermine the opposition. > > Given the above and the prevailing lack of proper structures or mechanisms > > in place to act [build consensus], it was prudent that some of us took > > leadership. I must say that our efforts have been commended by many who know > > that current self proclaimed ideologues and leaders in UPC are a talking > > shop of angry walking libraries and nothing other!! > > It is not strange that Canada is listening! > > Komrade P! > > Remember...U.P.C. as a Party of Unity, Peace & re-ConciliationSometimes > > people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with > > evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence > > cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely > > uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important > > to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny > > anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief. Frantz Fanon, Black > > Skin, White Masks > > > > From: Simon Ross Euku <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza > > > > Yoga Adhola is right. Ugandans must be patient and tolerant. The journey is > > still long and rough. > > > > Simon Ross Euku > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Yoga Adhola <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am told Red Pepper has reported that Sejusa is > > supposedly applying for asylum in Canada and Morris Komakech has managed to > > raise > > an army of protestors numbering 9. They are intending > > to report him to police with a view to him being charged with crimes > > against humanity. > > > > > > My view is that at this material time we need everybody who is against the > > regime. I believe that those who have been in high offices like Tinyefunnza > > can be of great value in our efforts to dislodge this regime. We do not need > > to alienate them. It would be in our bests interest to work with them to > > dislodge the regime. In stead of thesesilly demonstration, those in Canada > > should look for ways and means of working with Tinyefunza against the > > regime. > > > > > > I hope I am not going to be accused of being diversionary again. > > > > Yoga Adhola. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Upcnet mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://upcparty.net/mailman/listinfo/upcnet_upcparty.net > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Upcnet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://upcparty.net/mailman/listinfo/upcnet_upcparty.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Upcnet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://upcparty.net/mailman/listinfo/upcnet_upcparty.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Upcnet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://upcparty.net/mailman/listinfo/upcnet_upcparty.net _____ No virus found in this message. 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