Aliga Charles
I debate with serious people, and serious people do not hide names. We are
not encouraging it and this man is not encouraging it, that is what our
people are. And we can sit on the side and deny it all we want but bottom
line remains that foreigners never killed the population of Luwero it was
Ugandans themselves. Foreigners never killed Ugandans in the camps up North
it was Ugandans themselves. And if you lived in Uganda as some of us did
during Obote two government, you would know how a killer Kireka Barracks
was, no one was taken to Kireka barracks and came out alive, men like myself
are alive today for instead of being taken to Kireka barracks I was taken to
Makindye. Twodwong was killing people every night. Why is it a stretch to
state that Langis were targeted and murdered when Tito Okello and Olara
Otunu were in power? And yes Balulu like OJ have grown up in Luwero district
no problem, we lived with them all along but the moment the Luwero war
started they were wiped out. I do not think it is a very good idea to
comfort a Langi that he is safe living with an Acholi.
At minimum I own the balls to state the little known secret public.
EM
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"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aliga Charles
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:51 AM
To: uganda forum
Subject: RE: {UAH} IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
Having real name or not is not what tell the truth. Its what we say. I thank
you for the link of this book. I will buy, read
and respond. This is a one man claim if at all he say Acholi hate Langi.
Which, if he did, then am sorry for such people because, many innocent Langi
live peacefully with their Acholi friends and neighbours. His view should
not be taken as
the views of all Langi. This is the kind of mentality that make our country
not united. Now he live in the UK where there is no tribal discrimination
against their own. But in uganda, we encourage the same. What a shame.
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To: [email protected]
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Subject: {UAH} IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:31:06 -0500
Friends
I am very careful in what I post publicly, for I know that it can be
challenged. But I also make sure that I take the time to respond to all
challenges posted to what I post, because all questions deserve answers. And
I solely post it when I will not defend it. I however get very offended if
asked a question by some smug that has no name and has no identification. To
you I have no time for if you decided to be private remain so. Dont insult
me by challenging what I make public when you are private. Because I am on
my computer tonight, I am going to post a website where one can find the
book of this fella. Read it then turn around to educate me on how Acholis
cannot eliminate Langis in single
week.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1481796259/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?
ie=UTF8
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1481796259/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=U
TF8&psc=1> &psc=1 That is your website. If you want to go after me get a
name please. Oh and if you do not have a credit card to pay for the book I
have it.
Trust me namelesses live on survivals.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: {UAH} IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:29:40 +0000
EM,
I don't know, who feed you with this nonsense that, Acoli and Langi hate
each other to the level that, when given
the power of federalism, will jump on to each others throats. Please, its
this kind of baseless rumour(s) that have put our belove country into the
present situation. If you read a book written by a Langi by the name Major
Rob Otim Enur, stating that Acholi hate Langi, have you also read a book
written by an Acholi stating the same? If not, why would only Langi claim
the same? Why not Acholi also? Is this, not the same as, Baganda claiming
that, AMO hate them so much that should he became President again, Buganda
will be history. Because of this kind of baseless claim, (Baganda) compared
AMO to a "dog" when he died. Yet not a single day had Baganda proofed their
claim in any court in Uganda not even abroad. They used 1966 Crisis as their
yard stick of hatred towards AMO and northerners. They agains used 1980
election for the same. Is this, not the same as, any thing that goes against
the interest of Buganda, is hatred, whether its in the interest of majorithy
ugandans. But, the one that goes, agianst the majority ugandans but in the
interest of Buganda is good. The way they have imposed M7 upon ugandans to
date.
EM, making horrendous statement the way you do here about Acholi and Langi
is dangerous for the good of our country Uganda. Its the same as, what
baganda have been using since independent. M7 have used the same to come to
power. You are now doing the same, yet you considere youself a nationalist,
a critical thinker and an articulate, but, I see you are not. Acholi don't
hate Langi. They have many Langi in their home districts. Unless they Langi
are the one who harbour hatred towards Acholi people. Majority of Acholi
supported AMO not as a Langi but a good leader twice and they (Acholi) paid
the price.
EM, I wished, you remeber the title of that book written by the major, I
would love to read it. Lets, fight for a Uganda free of tribalism and
sectarianism. Happy New Year, EM.
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Subject: {UAH} IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 00:17:59 -0500
OJ
What you are stating is true, but the danger of Federalism is that it
empowers a primitive ignorant and uncivilized population to fuel its hate to
one another. Look at the family of Ssabassajja Mutebi alone, it is fighting
within its self on who are the true Balangira and Bambejja, seriously if the
problem in Buganda is that high, how can you politically empower such
people? As I stated way back in the piece, unitarism protects everyone to
live together for now we have powers centered into Kampala, so an Acholi
cannot work out a way and means of eliminating all Langis. And OJ when we
are talking about the hate of Langis by Acholis, there is a very interesting
book I need you to read. I need you to look for a book I forget the name,
but it was written by a Langi UNLA Major Rob Otim Engur, this major states
in the book that Adok Nekyon is his uncle, but he is a son of an Amins
first cabinet minister of Culture and Community Development in the 70s Mr.
Yekosafati A. Engur. And if anyone has read that book can help me with the
title that has passed my mind today.
When you read that Majors book you will realize how deep is the hatred
between Acholis and Langis. When you read that book you will realize how
Federalism will never work for Uganda or we are clearly walking directly
into the South Sudan situation. It is the hate of Langis that Yoweri
Museveni targeted into to get the Acholis on side and thus eating largely
from his government. The tribal hate in the population of our country way
passes the one of Kenya Tanzania and many neighboring countries. It is in
Uganda where Northerners were dying in camps and Baganda stood up and stated
very publicly that Ffe kasita twebaka kutulo, let moto nawaka. How can you
allow such primitive people to own political powers in their regions?
Baganda are going to close off Gulu road and everyone from The North will
never ever cross into Buganda to reach Kampala. Again let us use 2014 to
embrace our unitary system for it assures the lives in many among ourselves
sir.
We need and must stand up and reject Federalism with all compassion we own
list we turn Uganda into a South Sudan.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: Oryema Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:36 PM
To: m e; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]; lokonyen aldo
Subject: RE: IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
EM:
I know that you are 100% against federalism, but Africa's political
malpractice has nothing to do with whether a country is organized along
federal system or unitary. The brutal competition amongst African leaders
combined with envy and greed are the key problems. From independence to
today once one person among many enters the so-called "State House" everyone
else immediately becomes an enemy. The following leaders who also wanted the
same "katebe" were murdered by African presidents already in office:
Lutakome Kayira (Uganda)
Tom Mboya (Kenya)
J.M Karuiki (Kenya)
Edward Sokoine (Tanzania)
Patrice Lumumba (Zaire)
John Gaitut (Sudan)
In Zambia, Kenneth Kaunda never gave the following a chance:
Harry Nkumbula
Simon Kapwepwe
In Tanzania, Nyerere never had a good sleep as long as the following were
still around:
John Kambona and John Malechela
In the Sudan Bashir has a habit of locking up Aturabi
In Zimbabwe Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo never shared a dinner table and yet they
wrestled Rhodesia from Ian Smith together.
Until Africans learn that leading a nation is a shared responsibility, there
are many many South Sudans on the way. Instead of Democracy, Democracy and
more Democracy, Africans may want to consider what W.W. Dubois did in the
United States fighting for and introducing a Civil Rights Act which in the
United States outlaws major forms of discrimination against racial, ethnic,
natiional and religious minorities and women. In the following years after
its passing into law it was used to end unequal application of voter
registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at work and by
facilities that served the general public (known as public accommodations).
In short, any political systems one introduces in Africa will have the same
problems, because the political system is not the problem, but the people
running it.
OJ
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Subject: IT IS TIME UGANDANS EMBRACE UNITARIM IN SHEER EARNEST
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:02:31 -0500
Ugandans
You see in every bad thing there is a good thing. South Sudan must serve as
a warning to Ugandans about people like Betty Kamya that want to split up
our country under the Federalism nonsense and for two very good reason.
A} Cutting up a country is a very serious business that must be discussed by
Ugandans, it simply creates a headache to me when it is raised up and
started let alone pumped by Betty Kamya a Kenyan, when her own country is
not yet split up. If splitting up a nation is of that value to her why not
start with Kenya? A state of all Luos with Raila Odinga on the helm let us
see how that works out so that we as Ugandans can copy it. And this is why
she is in a very better position, you see I have all along seen arguments of
why we mus
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