Akim Odong
And record must show that this government built its failure for Ugandans in
diaspora buy services and send them into the country. Uganda government does
not import transportation vehicles for Ugandans send them, it does not buy
medical equipment’s for Ugandans send them, it does not buy agricultural
products for Ugandans send them. There are those of us that saw governments
importing so many things to be used by the population, Museveni’s government
does not import for Ugandans in diaspora will bring this or that in. Akim Odong
when did Uganda government actually import a bus last? And you think this is a
good idea? No because in as much as we buy them the government also lost track
of what goes in but what gets refused, and a direct result in that is the
massive diseases that have come into Uganda to kill many as such, I have never
seen such many Ugandans die of heart attack, cervical cancer, diabetes as
today. Why are these diseases growing that fast under this government? Is it
because we send every crap into the country?
And I am just asking the value of the so called Ugandans in diaspora and if you
have taken a second to study the larger problem you are creating sir.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:28 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
Mulindwa;
People in the diaspora can bring all that was sold off back inform of investors
etc. In order to to do that, they need a mouth and an earpiece within the
legislature and other parts of the government to make it possible.
The notion that Uganda is rotten and so be left to decompose is defeatist and
lazy. The heart is still beating. People in the diaspora, with some expertise
gained, can by all means resuscitate Uganda and many are doing just that but
with very little direction from the government. So representation is key. A
government that does not want diaspora involvement, is one that wants to
strangle the country to death. This must not be allowed!
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Akim Odong
But how does this representation help me as a Ugandan in diaspora? To what
success into Uganda when everything has already been sold? UCB is sold,
Cooperative Bank is sold, UCB main building is sold, Uganda Air Lines is gone,
Trans Ocean is gone, Uganda Railways is gone, many school properties are sold,
part of Lake Victoria is sold, posts is gone, many things standing today are
secretly sold. I am coming to Uganda come July for two weeks and I am coming
with intention to purchase Uganda Parliament building to build myself a home in
the property, now that everything in Uganda has a price. I have adored a home
on that property I might as well buy it on Museveni that has priced out
everything.
What is the value in representing me into a country that has been turned into
an empty kisosonkole sir?
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
Dr Kayondo;
You the Diasporas contribute massively to the country. Apart from the money
sent in as remits, there is also the ones they bring whenever the visit. The
very reason the price of dollars hits the floor come end of year. This
contribution make people in the diaspora stake holders and you therefore be
accorded representation at the highest level.
This is down to people in the diaspora to make demand for recognition as
stakeholders and important element to Ugandans development. And representation,
they must and should be given.
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:05 AM, 'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart
(UAH) Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Again I repeat my self on the issue of votes, I already said and quote, "I
think the discussion should be not about the number but the best way to engage
those in diaspora considering the fact that many will never participate in the
voting process anyways."
This body is not about votes, its about discussing ideas and crafting laws that
govern the land. The diaspora offers much more than votes and you will not get
many votes from the diaspora just because not many will get their voters cards
anyway. But the issue is about ideas, some think that this forum will do is
enough, some think there is need of another avenue and some think its useless
we should all just keep quite until a new government comes to power.
In my opinion there is room for all the above and which ever choice anyone
picks is okay, that the beauty of this world, we all dont think the same and it
will be very boring if we did.
There is a need for a better way of participating in crafting laws that govern
Uganda, and voices of representatives from developed countries are a tool worth
using in this process.
Eddie, MD
_____
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 7:55 PM
Subject: {UAH} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
Dr Kayondo
Let me cut this story short for you, if you are a Ugandan in diaspora so
interested into Uganda issues and elections, go home stand but vote. People
actually vote on matters that directly affect them, tell me how does a vote in
Uganda directly affect you when you are in diaspora? I have a constituency in
Luwero that affect me, do I vote? No for I am not in Luwero but I help
candidates I am told are good. Should we really stand up today and create a
pile of MPs in diaspora? And I will respond this way, when the movement came
power, Dr Muniini Mulera asked them for permission to become a chairman of NRM
in Canada and the secretariat said no the Movement is in power today and if it
is in power you have no reason being abroad to run the branch. And to the
recognition of NRM they actually shut down all NRM branches in diaspora as soon
as they came to power. So let me ask again, why do you actually need an MP in
diaspora? Are you in diaspora for you are antigovernment or because you feel
the government is bad?
If all is well at home to you believing that the MP system is effective and you
need to be represented, hey fly home and support your MP.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ]
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:44 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: {UMBS} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
Mr.Ssekajja,
I think the discussion should be not about the number but the best way to
engage those in diaspora considering the fact that many will never participate
in the voting process anyways. However we yet have any official means of
holding discussions not directly with the president or his representatives but
with the rest of the population in the presence of their representatives. Ideas
are numerous, possibilities limitless, the experience and bank of knowledge
encrypted in diaspora minds is limitless and I yet have to find one
knowledgeable person that is not ready to share their knowledge with other
Ugandans or participate in any activities that will improve the country.
However up to now ite process is erratic and we dont even know how it all goes
down.
So in my opinion this arrangement obviously needs a go ahead from the president
but its more than just dealing with him, its a path to introducing a new
culture within the body and globalfication of the Parliament.
Obviously 50 MP's is a number from the hat, but hasn't that number fueled this
discussion anyways?
Eddie, MD
_____
From: ssekajja via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: {UMBS} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
F.N,
Enlightenment + a Ugandan don't mix, when greed accompanied by self- interest
beckons!!!! It's not of the realisation that "diaspora 50 MPs" will bring about
some added value of democratic presentation, but knowing that this could be a
source of money, from 'Mr Cash Box' Museveni.
And given Museveni's desire for political control, this may seem too good a
chance to miss extending his political corruption hooks beyond the borders of
Uganda. His calculation since taking power, almost 30 years ago,has been to
increase administrative and political spheres/ units, influenced by NRM and
it's state sanctioned corruption. It is no wonder that the number of districts
has quadrupled during his rule, from around 30 to over 110. And in all these he
has planted NRM employees/ operatives, whose salaries payed by the state funds,
to guard his dictatorial interests.
Many people fail to see that the number of 50 MPs suggested to represent the
diaspora, is more than sufficient enough to represent the whole Uganda, (minus
the 375???already in parliament) given the country's current state.
The future "Sabagabo MP" epitomises the disconnect between 'enlightenment and
purposeful positive thinking" for what Uganda needs. The most supposedly
enlightened Ugandans are jumping on the 'Museveni corruption train' waving away
shouting and singing, "cherio, cheerio, Uganda.......'. In that cacophony, the
unmissable clear words are, 'the "father of the nation" is at it, the "mother
of the nation" is at it, the first son is at it, the uncle is at it, the MPs
are au it, the ministers are at it, "everyone" is at it, to hell with
enlightenment, I will be at it'
Ssekajja
On 25 May 2015, at 05:17, "'Federica Nshemereirwe' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Folks,
Advise me! What would an MP for the diaspora table in parliament? E.G??/ That
maybe their host government lifts some restrictions on migration status? That
maybe a roads to their residences in their host countries be renamed after
Ugandan heroes? I mean, if parliament is a legislative body, what can they
legislate for outside countries?? Sincerely, Ugandans have to out of this
m7nish demarcation of constituencies! And I would have imagined that people in
the diaspora are enlightened enough to know we already have much too many MPs!!
FN.
On Monday, May 25, 2015 5:31 AM, 'Dr.Edward Kayondo' via Ugandans at Heart
(UAH) Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Every Citizen of Uganda has the constitutional right to vote, so the issue of
where citizens are is not a valid reason for disqualification unless this right
is striped out of the constitution.
The sole purpose of Members of Parliament is to represent the people, and as we
all know each member represents a Constituency and the basic outlines of
demarcating a constituency are clearly laid out in the constitution to mention
a few the geographic distribution of the citizens and the " population quota".
The issue of counties also brings forth another problem I believe because the
diaspora is not described within the boundaries of Uganda so not being a lawyer
I would think that that is an issue that has to be considered too. This however
can handled by all Ugandans in the diaspora registering at the address of their
corresponding embassies. Which also brings forth the most important issue of
"population quota". There is no way to determine how many MP's are needed
without Citizens registering. I am not sure when the last census for Ugandans
in the diaspora was held so any numbers that any one puts forth are at the
least just estimates and I doubt if the EC will use those numbers to demarcate
constituencies.
At least people are talking, that is always good.
By the way do we finally have an organization that is ready to challenge the
validity of UNAA to represent the Diaspora? And who gave who the right to
represent the diaspora anyways? That in itself is an inherent problem that has
to be overcome before anything substantial is done.
Eddie, MD
_____
From: 'Ingram Kampe' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: {UMBS} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
George Okello-I am with you on this
one.--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/24/15, 'Ssekajja' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: {UMBS} 50 MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
To: "[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> "
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
Received: Sunday, May 24, 2015, 5:45 PM
George,
Hopefully you understand
this vernacular, but you don!t need to,simply because
it's a load of tosh, from a seemingly seasoned schemer.
This is a Bernie Madoff, trying to run a scam to make a
quick buck. Knowing Museveni's love for power he may
fall for it!!!!Akabbinkano-ababeera emitala wamayanja-Florence
Ssebuliba ...▶ 31:23www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-AtT0ZUdc20
<http://23www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-AtT0ZUdc20> Feb 2015 - Uploaded by
Bukedde TVBano ababera munsi zebweru
bagala bafuna ababaka ababakikirira mu palamenti ya
..Ssekajja
Sent from my
iPad
On 24 May
2015, at 19:24, George Okello <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
wrote:
Sekaja,
For many
years I was the only Ugandan in South East Asia. I
think
today, I am the only
Ugandan who is a settled resident of the
Philippines. The very few Ugandans I have
met in that country are
students training to become priests and
nuns at a world famous
Catholic
University based in Manila. For a period of 18 months,
I
never saw a black face at one
time. So I wonder who I would be
representing if I was one of the MPs for
Asia. The idea of having
Diaspora MPs is thick as it comes. I
think it is being pushed by a
gang of loonies and confidence tricksters
who have nothing better to
do.
These lazy neer-do-wells with nothing better to do claim
the
diaspora contributes to the
economy of Uganda in billions, But why
should that entitle them to a right to
vote in a country they are not
resident in? Are they willing to pay
non-domicile taxes on their
so-called contributions? Will they
declare their salaries and other
income to the Ugandan Revenue Service for
purposes of tax? Eritreans
are
up in arms against Aferworki for enshrining in law that
every
Eritrean must pay 10% of
their income in taxes to the Eritrean
Exchequer.Using this logic, you might as
well allocate seats to NGOs
and
Development agencies, and even foreign investors because
they are
all contributing to
the national cake. I have served as an elected
barangay (village) captain in the
Philippines for 2 years but on
condition that I spend at least 2 months
in the country. Are these
Diasporan MPs willing to do this? My
advice to the Diaporans is to
join politics in their countries of
residence and if elected as MPs,
then to use that position to influence
giovernment policies in favour
of his country of origin. For god's
sake would you want bigots and
neanderthalls like Edward Mulindwa
elected as diasporan MPs because
the nightmare scenario could well happen.
To give you an example, the
notorious hate mongering bigot has been
"elected" as the UAH Forum
Contributor of the Year three years
running. That tells you the type
of people who will be "elected"
diaporan MPs.
George Okello
On 5/24/15,
ssekajja via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
wrote:
What
would be the logic behind such a political move, of diaspora
MPs? Are
people seriously suggesting that, by
changing the constitution to accomodate
"the unnecessary", will improve
the governance, deliver better services and
root
out state sanctioned coorruption?
And
some free-thinker suggested 50 MPs!!
Ssekajja
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UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
ASIANS? AND 15 AT THAT?????
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50
MPS FOR UGANDANS IN DIASPORA?????
Florence Ssebuliba had a meeting on Friday
May 22nd with the Legal Affairs
Parliament Committee to submit Ugandan
Overseas Peoples Organization (UOPO)
proposal for constitution amendments. 1-
Parliament Representative for
Diaspora, 2- Voting rights for Diaspora.A
Photo and YouTube video attached.
Oout
of the total of 50 Diaspora MPs she is advocating for, she
wants Europe
to have 10 MPs, 15 for Asians, 5 for
Africa, e.t.c....What do you say???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-AtT0ZUdc
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