On 02/05/2012 07:02, Neil J. McRae wrote:

On 2 May 2012, at 06:25, "Steve Dyer"<[email protected]>  wrote:

Nicholas Lansman, who 'is' ISPA, was on Radio 4 a few days ago on this subject. 
He was rambling and not persuasive in any way.  There are other more effective 
organisations:
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2012/what-they-want-is-control
However the reality is that copyright holders, politicians, police, the media, and 
censors like IWF and the Whitehouse tendancy all benefit from being seen to "do 
something" and they don't really care if it's effective or if it damages civil 
liberty.

The problem with ORG is they believe they speak for a majority that doesn't 
exist.

If I take your point to conclusion then I should be able to setup hundreds of 
phishing sites and laugh all the way to the bank. You can't have your cake and 
eat it.



Neil - you'r missing the point. Of course illegal sites should be closed down. That's not what is happening here. A communication system is being controlled and censored by the state because it has no direct jurisdiction over the site it is trying to close - TPB. This is being done because those who profit from copyright are lobbying the State to try and keep their profits.

If I play some copyright music to you over your telephone line and you listen I should be sued by the copyright holder and so should you. If the reaction was instead to force BT to stop the ability of all phone lines to transmit music there would be an uproar.

Steve


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