Guys, I thought I'd chime in here to tell our story, since we recently added xDSL into our network. We studied all the options carefully, but conceded that we didn't want to be in a situation where we couldn't supply a service to remote customers who only had ADSL Max (IPSC) available. DSL is low value for us but it helps having the product in your portfolio to plug the gap when necessary - so if we were going to offer on-net ADSL, it had to be full coverage.
We ended up going with Enta because they had a pretty reasonable interconnect fee, an API, and actually the best interconnects with BT (still being the only full WBC adopter other than BT themselves). I see Enta as the best way to interconnect with BT without having to pay the eye watering connection fees, and most of all - we don't have to deal with BT (sorry Neil!). Their setup fee actually includes a pair of 1Gb interconnects, so we got a our main interconnects in Telehouse and backup connection up in Edinburgh for good measure. In terms of hardware, we bought a couple of good old Cisco 7204's (refurbs) with the NPE-G1 processor. Having two meant we didn't need to worry too much that they were cheap refurbs. That backs into a pair of Freeradius instances on our VM nodes in Edinburgh and London. I highly recommend Enta. We've had a very good experience with them (well the sales guys are useless, but techies are great). We have a load of customers now live on products from ADSL Max to plain ADSL2+, ADSL Annex M and even a couple of full 80/20 FTTC circuits. Does what it says on the tin! Also, while Juniper MX's are being discussed - we've just put our MX-80s into production, and they're brilliant. Looking forward to playing with them properly now. Regards, Charlie. -- Charlie Boisseau Fluency Communications Ltd. e. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w. http://fluency.net.uk/ t. 0845 874 7000 This Email and files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended for the sole use of the individual or organisation addressed. If you have received this Email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete it without using, copying, storing, forwarding or disclosing its contents to any other person While Fluency has endeavoured to ensure that any attachments do not contain viruses it will not be liable for any losses incurred by the recipient. Fluency Communications Ltd. Registered in Scotland. Company Number: SC390685. Registered Office Address: 1 Broughton Market, Edinburgh, EH3 6NU On 16 Jan 2013, at 22:22, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: every vendors has a weakness and a pro, in my view ALU easily are superior in real life situations. Having a look at the hardware and deep look at the code ALU win in my view, but you spend your money and take your choices. Take a look at 7950XRS for a platform that truly performs and Cisco have been chasing ALU on edge for ten years, ALU now have 7750-E! Sent from my iPad On 16 Jan 2013, at 16:30, "Aled Morris" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 16 January 2013 16:21, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thomas - I'll reach out to my ALU contacts and comeback with some options. Neil On 16/01/2013 16:03, "Thomas Mangin" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Alcatel Lucent 7750 > >Any recommendation to where to go to get product information from Alcatel >... They do not seem very geared for dealing with "small shops". Needless to say, Cisco claim that "independent testing" proves the ASR9k is superior to the 7750: http://www.miercom.com/2011/02/cisco-asr-9000-vs-alcatel-lucent-7750/ but real world experience trumps lab reports of course. Aled
