p.s. I just remembered something. the original draytek we used had been configured with traffic shaping to try and alleviate problems of too many people using poor ADSL lines (it was quite late after a busy day when we found this)
this is a picture of the kit before I upgraded to a better draytek, topologically nothing's really changed except the 2820's WAN1 was ADSL, and since the 29xx doesn't have ADSL I was able to use port WAN1 to connect to Cisco. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--i_gkmLBa0s/UgdbeBt90mI/AAAAAAAADgQ/FT1QkSSRi5w/w963-h722-no/vm_install.jpg
