Did I press something... ?:-)  But so glad I asked. A  wonderful reply.

The video presentation and the obscurantist documentation that avoided
providing real clue to back the claims irritated me.

I await his next version with credible independent metrics showing a
live deployment in a busy city block and as you suggest not limiting the
porn on offer.



Christian



Gord Slater wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9 December 2014 at 14:10, Christian de Larrinaga <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Gord,
> 
>     ? http://www.artemis.com/pcell
>     Be interested to learn if anybody has got under the veil of this one?
> 
> 
> I haven't seen that before, but I can guess having skipped through the
> the "tech" vid in a minute or less. What follows is a common rant,
> tailored to the  "wow technology!" being
> pushed|sold|wavedabout|linked-to ....
> 
> 
> Instead of quite a lot of radio station sites oriented in cells, which
> works OK until capacity is reached in that service area, they will use
> lots of little radio stations, effectively forming smaller and smaller
> cells. Nowt new - some cells are tiny, like femtocells. Some users use
> P2P methods if they want the same things that other do. Nowt new
> BitTorrent or VHS copy sharing are examples. To share effectively means
> proximity, awareness and similar needs. 
> 
> Every single radio station of any form that had capacity or throughput
> issues has used a similar technique since day one. Not all had good
> marketing. 
> 
> Reduce the range and you improve co-channel interference (as well as the
> side effect of reduced adjacent channel interference due to lower EIRPs,
> both wanted and spurious). As long as each new small, local site has not
> hit maximum capacity, for the required users in that service area,
> everything is sweet. 
> A soon as a limit is reached, you have to reduce the service areas, with
> reduced powers (which doesn't always mean reduced performance as you
> might think), by adding more cells. The process repeats until someone
> has a good idea. Limit hit, add more sites or upgrade tech to faster or
> wider or $something_normal.
> 
> Every now and again, someone has a good idea. Some of these need
> marketing, some gain traction own their own merits, some are obvious as
> soon as you see it. Some are purely theoretical and may take decades and
> several generations of kit to be practical. 
> 
> In the days of morse and trained telegraphists, a station could hit it's
> capacity in various ways. Staffing limits (morse training takes time and
> good fists take decades to become good), lack of telegraphy equipment
> and links, power and cooling constraints (watercooled sub-megawatt
> stations existed in many countries), paperwork/procedural
> inefficiencies, weather and climatic problems. Originally, none of these
> where limitations of the "ether" as the transmission medium was called.
> Eventually, there were so many stations that more and more frequencies,
> or groups of them, known as "bands", needed to be used, as well as some
> form of planning to make sure that the could co-exist without saturating
> the medium. Lower power, shorter range stations were introduced, in a
> similar method to nano-cells. They were shorter range not really by
> design, but by chance, unused bands that were less suitable to long
> range working could be utilised for shorter range use at certain times
> of the day.
> 
> At this point in history, we have frequency division (different
> frequencies and bands), time division (operators allowing other traffic
> on a time-sharing basis), range-limiting (where long range working
> wasn't needed), backhaul limitations (onward transmission by telegraph
> cables), procedural optimisation (streamlining message handling),
> beamforming (using one or more directional antennae and exploiting them
> actively, often by human intervention).
> At this point in the tale, we're looking at the late 1920's and early
> 1930s. 
> 
> In the remaining 90 years, throughput speeds have increased, equipment
> has become more portable, cheaper in relative terms for the end-user
> (arguable), all-pervasive and an expected part of everyday life. 
> 
> The problem of the 20's and 30's are the same today.
> User expectations, which should be high, are in effect destroyed by bad
> experience of mobile communications especially in busy areas. Cells are
> large due to lack of investment and forward thinking. Backhaul is a
> problem, as it is everywhere, until you have enough. If "enough"
> backhaul can't scale up when demand goes up, you hit the problems when
> the limit is reached.
> 
> The actual radio media (the "ether") hasn't changed, the same laws of
> physics are the same as they were 100 years ago, and probably have
> always been similar to what we see today (or think we see), we (RF
> people as a subset of tech society) may understand them better, that's
> all. The obvious solution to most of the perceived problems are to use
> diverse backhaul (install femtocells on xDSL all over the place), or
> massively diverse backhaul (use technologies like bittorrent or similar
> P2P) to provide more and more sites (cells) to provide the service to
> the users.
>  
> Nearly 90 years ago the same thing happened:-
> 
> More radio stations were installed where needed to provide capacity as
> needed, not just fill in gaps in coverage
> ..and..
> Radio ops would share the weather and traffic lists and even rebroadcast
> it to stations further away or with less advanced equipment, using
> diverse methods.
> 
> 
> That makes 3 assumptions - customers had to be willing to pay, companies
> wouldn't overspend or under-provide and that weather was wanted by many
> people. 
> 
> he selling point of this pCell $product|concept seems to be based on the
> assumption that everyone wants the same Netflix movie at roughly the
> same time. It claims to be able to provide 100% capacity to every user.
> As long as they want the same Netflix movie. 
> 
> I'm not convinced that the speaker knows the physics or understands the
> No1 problem he's creating for the customer - if user 1 wants to watch
> porn and user 2 doesn't, then user 3 had better have the porn that user
> 2 wants or the 100% claim is bullshit. You can only have 100% once, not
> twice, if the content is different, in a given spectrum and coverage
> area. Yes, the coverage areas are small (probably near-field). Yes, it's
> new to him. It's possibly new to the audience. There are many parallels
> to what he|they have claimed to invent|find|do. 
> Hell, the POTS telephone system itself is a possible analogy back to the
> days of dial-a-disc and speaking clock. Limited content in the case of
> dial-a-disc or speaking clock. Shared information at the end of the link
> (you set your watch by it and could tell people that asked you the time
> thereafter). Backhaul and coverage was extended until almost every
> building in the country was served by a local dissemination station that
> provided the service. Humans provided the P2P bit at the end.
> Near-field, local comms, were by acoustic dissemination between people
> who wanted the information/message/content. Service area is limited by
> the laws of physics (transmission lines, EMC issues, power). You can
> optimise the exchanges to improve speed (STD).  
> 
> For datacomms over RF we have come so far as a society from those early
> days that the users are far, far removed from the technology that they
> can't understand the physics or identify the limiting factors in their
> troubles.
> It's an exciting technology in the same way that blue smarties were
> exciting. They are still smarties and are fucking chocolate inside.
> There are only so many in a box. If you want, you could cut them up and
> move your mouth closer to eat them. You could pop one in your mouth and
> share with your neighbour if they want one. Smarties can't be
> duplicated. You cannot break the laws of physics, or smarties. 
> 
> Forgive me if I chuckle at the audience at the end. Either it's a polite
> audience or he's completely baffled them. I give 10/10 to the heckler,
> the "tech" not so much.
> 
> The team are obviously having fun and I don't want to piss on that for
> one minute, but it's hardly a breakthrough in historical terms as well
> as communications technology terms. I wish them well. I feel sorry for
> people who buy into that expecting to use it to solve a problem unless
> it's a netflix problem AND everyone wants the same. 
> Enthusiasm for something like that is hard to exude when the only
> TV-style media I watch are MST3K shows from the nineties. I doubt anyone
> nearby me would benefit even if I did rebro them locally at low power. I
> accept that groups of people tend to want to watch the same things,
> sometimes at roughly the same times. They tend to group closely
> together. That's a software opportunity for delivery efficiency,
> certainly not an RF breakthrough.   
> 
> There is only one 100%, even using "means diverse" as we all it. You
> cannot provide 101%, nor can nature, without some convenient
> assumptions. I wish he'd found an unlimited number of universes we could
> parallel up by using bonding, *that* would help. Actually, I wish he'd
> found a better compression algorithm for Netflix movies.  
> 
> 
> PS: Sorry, due to ranting nature of this I haven't spell-checked it or
> read for continuity. Several phone calls interrupted it so read between
> the lines and paras to get the sentiment.
> 
> -- 
> sent via Gmail web interface, so please excuse my gross neglect of
> Netiquette

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