On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 16:24 +0100, Alex Brooks wrote:
> Although you don't need this level of paper assurance, if you have a
> choice of providers and are having difficulty picking, you may wish
> to
> consider using the one on the CHECK list at
> https://www.cesg.gov.uk/finda/Pages/CHECKResults.aspx?post=1&sort=nam
> e
> and the CREST list at
> http://www.crest-approved.org/crest-member-companies/members-supplyin
> g-penetration-testing-services/index.html
> rather than the one that isn't listed on either.  It should certainly
> help keep the auditors happy.
> 

You're not giving the full picture here... CHECK (the government
scheme) is only open to British citizens (https://www.cesg.gov.uk/servi
cecatalogue/service_assurance/CHECK/Pages/Fundamental-Principles.aspx).

To do CHECK work, you need to have a security clearance, work for a
CHECK approved (green light company) and hold a certification that's
recognized by CESG.

There are three private schemes that deliver certifications that are
recognized by CHECK as equivalent (see https://www.cesg.gov.uk/servicec
atalogue/service_assurance/CHECK/Pages/What-is-CHECK.aspx). These are
CREST (www.crest-approved.org), Tigerscheme (www.tigerscheme.org) and
Cyberscheme (www.thecyberscheme.com). These certifications are for 
 individuals (the boots on the ground, what matters)...

On the other hand, the "green light" is a company thing... that's only
required if you intend on doing a CHECK test.

In practice, unless you're required to do a CHECK test, you don't want
one. It's probably a good idea to ensure that the tester you get holds
a valid certification allowing him to do CHECK work... but you don't
want a CHECK test. It will add cost and be inappropriate: The schemes
are tailored towards what the government needs/uses (old tech,
different security models). They have (or should!) proper asset
inventories, document classification schemes, ... do you?

I hope the above helps.

Regards,
        Florent
PS: I used to sit on the technical board of one of those schemes... and
do hold a CTL-equivalent cert... but have never done a CHECK test.

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