On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 at 14:23, Tom Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Generally, however, when anyone says 'it's all the fault of many other
> individuals', it usually begs the question: "are you sure it isn't just
> you?"


In fairness, while BT were a bit glacial at this sort of thing (and have
recently made strides to improve on this), freeholders and their solicitors
really are often just clueless/deluded/slow bastards in equal measure
because there's just not enough competition in their line of work to compel
them not to be. Even getting a single leased line in to one commercial
tenant can be hard enough, much less doing an entire estate, especially if
you're going to have to drill/cut holes in communal areas.

Many truly think that they can charge whatever they want for wayleaves (one
wanted well north of £400 a month for <50 metres of fibre through existing
trays in their carpark). Almost as many still don't seem to understand what
a wayleave is, but are generally quite certain that it sounds like the sort
of thing you should pay them a lot of money for, because of all the
billions you are obviously going to make selling the internets and
telephones to their tenants, because every internet company is worth a
billion dollars now, it says so in the papers.

Then you will inevitably get so far in a proposal and someone with a
stereotypically adenoidal drone on the RA who has been comatose for the
last twelve meetings will wait until the final approval meeting to suddenly
go "but what about x from y?" and everyone has to fucking wait another six
months to a year to figure out if y is even interested, if x is even
feasible, or if y+x can result in "a deal" that satisfies everyone with
skin in the game.

Ultimately while hyperoptic has now built up some recognition for
installing in MDUs, has a simple enough offering that consumers seem to
grok, and has figured out for the most part how to satisfy/entice
freeholders, managing agents, residents - whoever to get the deals done,
and because there's only so many freeholders/managing agents to deal with
I'm sure it's useful to be able to point at a list of their other buildings
you've completed to (hopefully) everyone's satisfaction - I have absolutely
no doubt it's still like pulling fucking teeth for their
negotiating/wayleaves team though - it can easily take them 1-2 years from
commencement of discussions to actually get into a site despite being "deal
flexible".

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