> On 3 Sep 2019, at 09:48, James Bensley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It's interesting that the request came from someone from within the
> Beeb. On their own website they allude that unless you're a customer
> of one of the listed ISPs, you probably aren't getting a service
> delivered via multicast (although, I'm not sure how up to date this
> page is): http://www.bbc.co.uk/multicast/tv/home.shtml

Very Not up-to-date :) In fact, we should have it edited to make clear it 
documents a technical trial from many years ago. I’ll see where it’s hosted..

Just to echo the point about linear, as-live TV not going away - live events 
(Sport, News and others) are huge, getting bigger each year, and cause us, the 
provider networks and the CDNs the greatest challenges in terms of capacity and 
stability each year.

The Beeb does a lot of multicast intra-network, for moving contribution AV 
around the business, and that’s well understood and works nicely - it helps if 
you use the same kit within the domain. 

The great hope of inter-domain multicast does seem to be dead, but the amount 
of work going into making HTTP-esque delivery of live media work at scale 
within the industry is considerable, and that has the benefit of sharing a 
*lot* of existing technology, processes and domain knowledge with the 
mostly-proven on-demand HLS/DASH/CMAF world. Offloading traffic as near as 
possible to the consumer edge of the network - but achieving that at the 
application rather than networking layers - is the ongoing trend.

BTW - Hi Nick :)

Paul


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