On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 10:16, Paul Tweedy <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 3 Sep 2019, at 09:48, James Bensley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It's interesting that the request came from someone from within the
> > Beeb. On their own website they allude that unless you're a customer
> > of one of the listed ISPs, you probably aren't getting a service
> > delivered via multicast (although, I'm not sure how up to date this
> > page is): http://www.bbc.co.uk/multicast/tv/home.shtml
>
> Very Not up-to-date :) In fact, we should have it edited to make clear it 
> documents a technical trial from many years ago. I’ll see where it’s hosted..
>
> Just to echo the point about linear, as-live TV not going away - live events 
> (Sport, News and others) are huge, getting bigger each year, and cause us, 
> the provider networks and the CDNs the greatest challenges in terms of 
> capacity and stability each year.
>
> The Beeb does a lot of multicast intra-network, for moving contribution AV 
> around the business, and that’s well understood and works nicely - it helps 
> if you use the same kit within the domain.
>
> The great hope of inter-domain multicast does seem to be dead, but the amount 
> of work going into making HTTP-esque delivery of live media work at scale 
> within the industry is considerable, and that has the benefit of sharing a 
> *lot* of existing technology, processes and domain knowledge with the 
> mostly-proven on-demand HLS/DASH/CMAF world. Offloading traffic as near as 
> possible to the consumer edge of the network - but achieving that at the 
> application rather than networking layers - is the ongoing trend.

Interesting, thanks for confirming.

I for one will raise my hand and say I'd like to see a UKNOF talk on
multicast within a content producer (not a service provider network).

Cheers,
James.

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