something for the weekend :-) On 22/05/2020 14:16, Neil J. McRae wrote:
I can see the meme generator is going to be busy today! :DOn 22/05/2020, 14:06, "uknof on behalf of Christian" <uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk on behalf of c...@firsthand.net> wrote: Another question. If all Internet connections (capital "I" please note) have to have a public IP provided that is stable and are able to initiate and respond to service requests (act as host/p2p) as of today. Would we be able to buy IPv4 Internet access today ? I am tempted to argue that anybody without a public IP is not actually being given Internet access but mediated Internet "connection". So rather than deprecating IPv4 which I don't think is workable. Then "Internet access" should be sold as a separate product offer to Internet "connection". That might also help drive IPv6 as it is by far the cheapest and simplest way to provide Internet access rather than just connection. There are of course various stools between those armchair definitions but the point is - Industry and users should drive towards IPv6 everywhere. Internet Access should be a clear offer in the market where you actually are an Internaut not mediated by CGNATs and goodness knows what else. Anything less connected than Access should be distinctly defined so the market understands the offerings and can make like for like comparisons. It also might help drive a distinction away from the lowest common commodity denominator pricing model we see. .0001c Christian On 19/05/2020 11:09, Paul Mansfield wrote: > Here's a thought. > Industry leading bodies* should announce that from 2026 all internet > connections sold in the UK will be IPv6 only, and thus all CPEs must > support IPv6 on the WAN and the LAN side, with no IPv4 on either. ISPs > can then offer a DNS64/NAT64 service for customers, particularly > consumers, who can't implement their own solution. > > I think that allowing the current situation to drag out simply causes > more pain in the long run, and we all know that when there's no real > deadline nothing ever finishes! > > > * the LINX, LONAP, MANAP etc, UKNOF and the biggest ISPs such as BT and Sky. > > I can't include Virgin, Talktalk and PlusNet since they seem to be > somewhat silent on this ;-) >
