Sky set top box’s only do ipv4 :(
Samsung smarttv only do ipv4 :(
Dyson fan only do ipv4 :(

However TomH is doing his best to make better ipv6 in uk.   As as example ipv6 
between bt customers can work.

Colin

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> On 7 Jul 2023, at 17:24, Leo Vegoda <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 09:16, Paul Mansfield <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Mobile phone networks have managed to obsolete 2G and 3G devices,
>> pushing for 4G-only and probably one day 5G-only. We've also got Wifi6
>> labelling.
> 
> This is because they have much more control of the client devices. A
> huge proportion of users get their phones from their network operator
> or an MVNO with aligned interests.
> 
> So, if a network wants to shut off an older protocol they can directly
> influence the number of devices using it and minimise the negative
> consumer backlash. A consumer ISP cannot control the light bulbs,
> laptops, or games consoles subscribers use.
> 
>> I think the key part is educating consumers to stop buying **** that
>> hasn't got a "IPv6 Compatible" label on it. That begs the question,
>> who would be the right industry bodies to provide testing suites and
>> services for this certification and lab services?
> 
> The IPv6 Forum did this for ages. But consumers don't care. They buy
> based on functionality and price, not protocol politics.
> 

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