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What I said. C

On 8 July 2023 08:25:10 Aled Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
There’s no LIR between a major content provider and the Internet, they’re all LIRs in their own right. Perhaps you meant RIR but in any case there’s no argument in the RIPE region since IPv6 addresses are free.

Aled


On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 23:22, Christian de Larrinaga via uknof <[email protected]> wrote: Users wanting e2e have promoted v6. But The networks (LIRs ) are responsible for IP addressing for user edge including content services. There's a dotted line to vendors but they want orders from the ISPs.

ISPs need to keep costs down. So the scale of demand for V6 support in equipment has to be sufficient to get market traction.

Sigh!.. we are still discussing this 23 years on and nearly a decade after v4 exhaustion.

C



On 7 July 2023 17:36:37 Peter Gradwell <[email protected]> wrote:



yes, a lot needs to change. But we don't seem to
be any closer.

Mobile phone networks have managed to obsolete> 2G and 3G devices, pushing for 4G-only and
probably one day 5G-only. We've also got Wifi6
labelling.

As a consumer, the G upgrade gives me something I didn’t have before and I want to pay for (faster packets in more places).

V6 doesn’t change my consumer experience and it’s completely invisible.

It’s also harder to understand and increases complexity imo. (And alegedly I have some tiny understanding of the 7 layers of the Ip stack).

Cos it offers no visible benefit, is harder to adopt and requires a cost of change, it’s understandably not being driven by consumer.

Cheers
Peter


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