Apologies here, I didn’t mean to start another IPv6 and which translation mechanism should be used discussion! Perhaps I should have caveated my original post.
Was just interested in which vendors/solutions people are currently using for CGNAT functions (alongside IPv6!) as there are quite a few options out there ranging from the low cost to the not so low cost – some of which I have already used, some I haven’t. Paul Bone From: Christian de Larrinaga <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 9:25 AM To: Aled Morris <[email protected]> Cc: Brian Candler <[email protected]>; Paul Mansfield <[email protected]>; Peter Gradwell <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [uknof] CGNAT Solutions What I said. C On 8 July 2023 08:25:10 Aled Morris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There’s no LIR between a major content provider and the Internet, they’re all LIRs in their own right. Perhaps you meant RIR but in any case there’s no argument in the RIPE region since IPv6 addresses are free. Aled On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 at 23:22, Christian de Larrinaga via uknof <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Users wanting e2e have promoted v6. But The networks (LIRs ) are responsible for IP addressing for user edge including content services. There's a dotted line to vendors but they want orders from the ISPs. ISPs need to keep costs down. So the scale of demand for V6 support in equipment has to be sufficient to get market traction. Sigh!.. we are still discussing this 23 years on and nearly a decade after v4 exhaustion. C On 7 July 2023 17:36:37 Peter Gradwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > yes, a lot needs to change. But we don't seem to > be any closer. > Mobile phone networks have managed to obsolete > 2G and 3G devices, pushing for 4G-only and > probably one day 5G-only. We've also got Wifi6 > labelling. As a consumer, the G upgrade gives me something I didn’t have before and I want to pay for (faster packets in more places). V6 doesn’t change my consumer experience and it’s completely invisible. It’s also harder to understand and increases complexity imo. (And alegedly I have some tiny understanding of the 7 layers of the Ip stack). Cos it offers no visible benefit, is harder to adopt and requires a cost of change, it’s understandably not being driven by consumer. Cheers Peter
