OK, I called with the PTO's electronic filing hotline and explained the situation - I want to file (true BTW) but don't have a Windows system, so could I get a copy of the XML format?

Answer: The XML format is unavailable, and apparently the xml gets packaged together with a PDF into yet another format (also proprietary), so to my question, "so what you're saying is, either I purchase a Windows system or I'm out of luck", he paused for < half second and said "yup, that's pretty much it".

So ... the Patent System ... which was invented to promote progress through the open sharing of knowledge ... has been co-opted by the Forces of Secret Technology!

Is this astonishing or what.

- Judah

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Judah Milgram wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Michael Hughes wrote:

Imagine if there was a bill on the table for allowing patents to only be submitted in a Word .doc file... or only written with a Bic Pen on Mead Paper. I'd be suspicious about a behind-the-scenes deal between Mead and the US Patent Registry. Not very indicative of a 'Free-market Society.'

Well ... guess what - they're already on the way! The Patent & Trademark Office has an electronic filing system that requires Windows 2000 or XP. Even Macs are out! Fortunately, you can still file a paper application ... but how long do you suppose that will last.

I thought I read that the submission format is XML which, if properly documented could allow an open-sorcerer to write an editor. But I can't find that now. Two interesting links:

http://www.uspto.gov/ebc/efs/downloads/systemreq.htm

and this FAQ entry:

http://www.uspto.gov/ebc/efs/faq/fileformats.htm

which poses the question, "Why is it unacceptable to electronically file an application saved in Portable Document Format (PDF)?" - and doesn't answer it! Subversive meta-comment from a Unix-loving documentation guy?

I work for an online university and am moderately disgusted that we just moved all student records over to a system that *only* works with Internet Explorer. We just excluded (or caused significant inconvenience for) all students who choose to avoid IE for reasons of convenience, cost and/or security. (I'm one of them.) I had no power to change this, but maybe I can help catch someone else from making the same mistake.

The "IE-only" syndrome is out of control. I see no solution.

Judah

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