Hello Bart!

Thanks for your input!

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Bartosz SKOWRON <[email protected]> wrote:
> I remember that idea from the last year and then i was confused of it.
> Now, unfortunately I'm still.
> Quickscan for me (and gpolo wrote the same on IRC) is nothing more than
> simple SysTray icon, where you can click or use hotkey and type
> host, and after a while get information about the host (maybe by
> using system notification or balloons or the correct name of this
> thing).

I understand what you mean, and maybe I didn't make the proposed idea
clear enough in the ideas page. It is not only a systray icon, and it
is not a simple scan. We want something usable, and quick like
spotlight or launchy. Something that is clever enough to really speed
up its use in order to be faster than using regular nmap command. If
you use spotlight or launchy you'll understand what I mean.

> And this is a task for few hours (including testing). And it's
> definitely too small for GSoC. At least, I can do it on Wednesday if
> it's all about ;-)

Develop a systray icon that runs an nmap command is not what we want,
as I said. There is enough room here to fill a whole GSoC if the
student is innovative enough. That is the sort of breakthrough we
need: there is no spotlight equivalent for searching on the network
instead of files.

> The other things which you and Luis described, personally are
> worthless. I mean, it's more talking than coding. Too much abstraction.
> If it has to be "quick" it should be pure, simple and without extra
> options.

Sorry, but I disagree once again. I can be quick and look simple to
users, but this involves a lot of coding. Developing a pleasant
interface isn't that easy, and it indeed involves abstraction. This is
the idea part, so we need some brainstorming to have a better
understanding of the whole thing and then realise the best solution.

> Otherwise it won't be quicker than using nmap directly from
> console (please remember, that Quick Scan is mostly for experienced
> users).

What's faster? typing nmap -T4 -v -n IP, selecting the desired result
and after typing the command to launch the client or typing a simple
shortcut, the IP and then right-clicking the result to launch the
client. I would go for the second one just as people go for spotlight
instead of running a find or locate on the terminal.

> But if you feel like it has to have more options. OK. But then
> I will wait for full proposal more than simple ideas. Cause for now,
> I'm sure that with this thread we will go to nowhere without specified
> details and goals.
> That's my point of view.

Once again, thanks for your input. It was very important, because if
you're confused, that means that someone could be confused also and
this conversations is important to clarify the intentions of this
idea, so proponents can create a better proposal.


Cheers!

PS: If in the end we find that QuickScan is not enough for a GSoC,
I'll make sure to provide the student more tasks to fill the time,
don't worry! ;-)

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