Hi Ellin,
It's nice to hear your voice.
Can you elaborate on what you mean below?  It seems to me that knowing the 
label still doesn't mean you know better or more.  Many teachers called 
themselves whole language teachers and had no clue as to what that meant.  When 
a backlash came they quickly reverted to what they were doing before or adopted 
another label they didn't quite understand because everyone else was using it.  
So in times of crisis we want kids to think and not just to be able to put a 
label to a thought.  If I had to choose I would pick the former to the latter 
in a NY minute.  We had an interesting discussion on another list recently 
about the definition of a memoir.  Although we came to an agreement of sorts, 
there are still books out there that are memoir like but may not strictly be 
labeled as memoir.  The impact is still the same.  I think it's far more 
important for us as teachers to learn how to find the kernels of wisdom in 
children's thinking (it's always there if we look deeply enough to understand) 
than to think that a better articulation of an idea means they understand.
Thanks,
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada


But I 
want to argue that we will never fully know  what/how/if they understand 
unless we teach them the language to fully define  and describe their thoughts. 
 
That's why the comprehension strategies have  been so important, in my 
teaching, anyway -- they help show us the way in to  children's thinking.  
Without 
having the language to define and describe  their thinking, I worry that too 
many 
of us would either assume that they're not  thinking at high levels (when 
they really are, but just can't articulate it)  and/or turn to the kids (I 
often 
call them the usual suspects!) who very  naturally (and with a lot of help at 
home, often) learn to articulate their  thinking.  I worry that we've always 
assumed that the usual suspects were  thinking at a higher level when in fact, 
they're just better able to articulate  what they're thinking.  The strategies 
give everyone the opportunity to describe their  thinking.  
What I am trying to argue in this book, though, is that  the strategies are 
merely a means (albeit a very effective means) to an end -  that end is 
understanding - but what do we really mean by  understanding!? 
ellin



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