Thanks for keeping us moving, Jennifer.  I am so far behind that I had to 
skip ahead, but I started Ch. 8 and am loving it.  I've only read a few 
pages but find that Keene's observations fit perfectly with what I've been 
trying to achieve in my classroom.  Several years ago, when everyone was 
busy having kids write 'response to literature,' I asked myself how I prefer 
to respond to literature.  No thinking time required: I want to TALK ABOUT a 
good book--and I want to talk with someone who read the same book.  My 
friend and I have worked (and continue to work) to help kids learn how to 
have (what we call) literary conversations.  Imagine my joy when I saw the 
title of this chapter (written by my #1 favorite advisor)!  Keene details 
her experience with art, describing her "longing to talk."  That's how I 
feel when I read a great book.  In fact, I just finished The Monsters of 
Templeton (excellent!) and can't wait for my husband to finish so we can 
TALK.  Once my friend and I figured out how to give kids some tools to talk, 
to think, we knew we were still missing something.  Finally, this year, we 
really taught Synthesis and showed kids how talking about our reading and 
really listening to others helps us form new thinking, or as Keene says, 
"when people engage in discourse, they are inventing new meaning, new 
interpretations that add a new layer to earlier ideas."  Now we're really 
concentrating on helping kids talk AND understand how their thinking changes 
through talk.

I haven't made it to "Clara's lesson" yet, but I sure love reading Keene's 
learning through her experience with art.  I am fascinated by the 
Matisse~Picasso relationship and the effect their discourse had on their 
thinking and ideas (thanks for including the art, Ms. Keene).

Sorry this is so disjointed, but I love this chapter and had to respond.  I 
await other responses...because, as Keene writes, "discourse leads to 
understanding."

Judy
(judy3ca)





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> It is time, past time actually, to move on to chapter eight: The Great
> Conversations.
> As some of us begin thinking about next fall, I think the charts: How to
> Create a Classroom That Encourages Discourse and Talk about Thinking: 
> Guiding
> Principles for Talking with Children have some thought provoking 
> ideas.What were
> you all thinking about as you read this part?
>
> I would also love to hear comments regarding "Clara's lesson."
> Jennifer
>
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