Thanks, Andrea, for this great advice.  You're right, of course!  I appreciate 
the way you have shared your perspective; you help me see that the "right thing 
to do" may be the most difficult but will definitely be the most worthwhile and 
long-lasting.
Judy

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From: Andrea Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Hi everyone - 
> 
> Wow! We are busy thinking on this Sunday aren't we? I couldn't help but pitch 
> in my point of view. I am a fairly new teacher. This is my 6th year. I was 
> blessed by a great master's program before I started teaching. I read Mosaics 
> of Thought and Strategies that Work and Reggie Routman and Fountas and 
> Pinnell 
> before I started my first year. While I didn't completely understand what all 
> of this looked like in practice I began to develop my philosophy. In five 
> years 
> I have learned a tremendous amount. I work in a school where teacher turn 
> over 
> is the norm. After my first year I was thrust into a position of the "most 
> experienced" person on my team. My third year of teaching I had all new 
> teammates yet again, all of which were new to the profession. I learned a lot 
> about "coaching" new teachers while I was still coaching myself. During most 
> of 
> my career we have had few actual coaches to help out. My teammates and I have 
> supported 
> each other and helped each other out. I introduced them to Strategies that 
> Work and Mosaics of Thought and we were all introduced to Lucy Calkins. I 
> don't 
> think they completely understood the comprehension strategies at first, but 
> now 
> I see that they have developed teaching philosophies that are consistent with 
> my 
> own. In a profession where there is constant panic over test scores and mixed 
> messages sent through numerous prof. developments the once "newbies" on my 
> team 
> have now developed into colleagues who help each other think deeply about 
> understanding. I say, go for it! Introduce new teachers to the world of 
> teaching students for deeper comprehension and for the love of reading. If 
> not, 
> you risk raising a crop of teachers throwing reading passages and textbooks 
> to 
> students because they don't know what else to do... As a new teacher I was 
> ALWAYS greatful for any reflective discussion or bits of advice. They absorb 
> everything you tell 
> them like a sponge. 
> 
> Andrea 
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: [Understand] Beginning with Chapter One 
> To: [email protected] 
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 7:28 PM 
> 
> 
> Bev... 
> You are on to something, I think. Ellin isn't just writing about what kids 
> 
> need to understand, she is writing about what people need... 
> You have my thinking going in a new direction now! 
> Thanks! 
> Jennifer 
> In a message dated 9/28/2008 8:01:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
> 
> Maybe. We forgot to keep our eyes on where we were really headed, and 
> stopped off at the first town we came to? I was thinking of working with 
> students 
> when I wrote that, but now that you bring it up, it's definitely true for 
> teachers and other learners, I think. It's why Ellin said we don't 
> get to 
> understanding because our literacy concepts are not "applied in a variety 
> of 
> texts and contexts," even after we've gotten most of the way there. 
> 
> When we work with teachers, maybe we stop right before we get to the place 
> our conversation would help them to "apply to other contexts." So 
> we're 
> teaching everything as a separate piece of knowledge or skill, so we have to 
> reteach and reteach and reteach. 
> 
> It's no mystery that we have to teach fraction operations and percents and 
> 
> decimals over and over again because we haven't ever really taught them at 
> 
> all. There isn't enough "understanding" to generalize. 
> 
> Maybe that's what we need to tell Jamika. What we mean when we talk about 
> 
> understanding is a lot about generalizability or, if we want to bring in 
> Bloom, another model that has influenced us all, evaluation along with all 
> others 
> included. 
> 
> Maybe, in our work with teachers, we do need to examine our language just as 
> carefully as Jennifer describes in her post. "So what do you know now 
> about 
> fluency that you didn't know before?" "What was there about 
> these 
> investigations that will change your teaching ____ in the future?" or 
> "How will 
> learning to respond to students in reader's workshop help you to respond 
> in 
> _______________?" 
> 
> One of my biggest mistakes as a coach has always been failing to debrief in 
> a timely manner, or sometimes at all. I continuously try to juggle our need 
> to develop our teachers as professionals and their needs to have enough time 
> to be well-prepared for their classroom and/or able to get their classroom 
> work done before 7 p.m. It's a tightrope walk. But now, today, I'm 
> thinking 
> that by saving that needed debriefing 20 minutes with the teacher, I'm 
> throwing away the hour and a half I just spent modeling, coteaching, 
> whatever. 
> 
> Hmmmm.> Good question! That extra ten percent might be the most 
> important...and 
> in > light of our other conversations...essential to include in our work 
> with 
> new > teachers. It is the "So What" piece we often don't 
> bring to our 
> students. What > did the strategies do for us? What do we know now that we 
> didn't 
> know before? > That last question I started using after every strategy 
> lesson 
> last May and > it made a world of difference. > > Do you think we cut 
> off that 
> last ten percent because we were teaching > strategies as the end goal not 
> 
> understanding?> Jennifer 
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