Hi everyone -
 
Wow!  We are busy thinking on this Sunday aren't we?  I couldn't help but pitch 
in my point of view.  I am a fairly new teacher.  This is my 6th year.  I was 
blessed by a great master's program before I started teaching.  I read Mosaics 
of Thought and Strategies that Work and Reggie Routman and Fountas and Pinnell 
before I started my first year.  While I didn't completely understand what all 
of this looked like in practice I began to develop my philosophy.  In five 
years I have learned a tremendous amount.  I work in a school where teacher 
turn over is the norm.  After my first year I was thrust into a position of the 
"most experienced" person on my team.  My third year of teaching I had all new 
teammates yet again, all of which were new to the profession.  I learned a lot 
about "coaching" new teachers while I was still coaching myself.  During most 
of my career we have had few actual coaches to help out.  My teammates and I 
have supported
 each other and helped each other out.  I introduced them to Strategies that 
Work and Mosaics of Thought and we were all introduced to Lucy Calkins.  I 
don't think they completely understood the comprehension strategies at first, 
but now I see that they have developed teaching philosophies that are 
consistent with my own.  In a profession where there is constant panic over 
test scores and mixed messages sent through numerous prof. developments  the 
once "newbies" on my team have now developed into colleagues who help each 
other think deeply about understanding.  I say, go for it!  Introduce new 
teachers to the world of teaching students for deeper comprehension and for the 
love of reading.  If not, you risk raising a crop of teachers throwing reading 
passages and textbooks to students because they don't know what else to do... 
As a new teacher I was ALWAYS greatful for any reflective discussion or bits of 
advice.  They absorb everything you tell
 them like a sponge.  
 
Andrea

--- On Sun, 9/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Understand] Beginning with Chapter One
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 7:28 PM

 
Bev...
You are on to something, I think. Ellin isn't just writing about what kids 

need to understand, she is writing about what people need...
You have my thinking going in a new direction now!
Thanks!
Jennifer
In a message dated 9/28/2008 8:01:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Maybe.  We forgot to keep our eyes on where we were really headed,  and 
stopped off at the first town we came to?  I was thinking of working  with
students 
when I wrote that, but now that you bring it up, it's definitely  true for 
teachers and other learners, I think.  It's why Ellin said we  don't
get to 
understanding because our literacy concepts are not "applied in a  variety
of 
texts and contexts," even after we've gotten most of the way  there.  

When we work with teachers, maybe we stop right before we  get to the place 
our conversation would help them to "apply to other  contexts."  So
we're 
teaching everything as a separate piece of knowledge  or skill, so we have to 
reteach and reteach and reteach.  

It's no  mystery that we have to teach fraction operations and percents and

decimals  over and over again because we haven't ever really taught them at

all.   There isn't enough "understanding" to generalize.

Maybe that's what we  need to tell Jamika.  What we mean when we talk about

understanding is a  lot about generalizability or, if we want to bring in 
Bloom, another model  that has influenced us all, evaluation along with all
others 
included.  

Maybe, in our work with teachers, we do need to examine our language  just as 
carefully as Jennifer describes in her post.  "So what do you  know now
about 
fluency that you didn't know before?"  "What was there  about
these 
investigations that will change your teaching ____ in the future?"  or
"How will 
learning to respond to students in reader's workshop help you to  respond
in 
_______________?"

One of my biggest mistakes as a coach has  always been failing to debrief in 
a timely manner, or sometimes at all.   I continuously try to juggle our need 
to develop our teachers as professionals  and their needs to have enough time 
to be well-prepared for their classroom  and/or able to get their classroom 
work done before 7 p.m.  It's a  tightrope walk.  But now, today, I'm
thinking 
that by saving that needed  debriefing 20 minutes with the teacher, I'm 
throwing away the hour and a half  I just spent modeling, coteaching, whatever.
 
Hmmmm.> Good question!  That extra ten percent might be the most
important...and 
in > light of our  other conversations...essential to include in our work
with 
new > teachers.  It is the "So What" piece we often don't
bring to our 
students. What > did  the strategies do for us? What do we know now that we
didn't 
know before? >  That last question I started using after every strategy
lesson 
last May and  > it made a world of difference. > > Do you think we cut
off that 
 last ten percent because we were teaching > strategies as the end goal not 

understanding?>  Jennifer
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