On 30/07/2003 16:34, Ted Hopp wrote:

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:15 PM, Peter Kirk wrote:


... But there are other sequences which are
ambiguous between ending in a consonant or a vowel, notably yod
following hiriq, and vav with dagesh which may be shuruq.



Hiriq followed by yod is a standard Hebrew vowel with a name: hiriq male. There's also a tsere male, which is a tsere followed by a yod. In both cases, the yod is considered part of the vowel. In some Hebrew accents, there are apparently phonetic as well as spelling differences between the male and khaser forms of hiriq and tsere.

Ted

P.S. In case anyone was wondering: "maLE" means "full" and "khaSER" means
"diminished" or "lacking".

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Thanks ... but hiriq plus yod can also be just that, a sequence of hiriq and yod, and must be that when the yod is followed by a vowel. Admittedly in such cases there is usually a dagesh in the yod; in all five cases without one which I found in BHS (1 Kings 1:13:22, Jeremiah 52:19:7, Ezekiel 1:11:12, Daniel 5:24:3, 9:2:13 - third number is word count, taking maqaf as not dividing words), BHS is following L where other MSS differ. But, as you, Ted, have said several times, we must support irregular spellings as well as regular ones.

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