Le 01/10/13 15:39, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
In plain text, we would just use the [s|z] notation without care about
presentation & font sizes used in the rendered rich text page. It
correctly represent the intended alternation without giving more
importance to one base letter.
But it you wanted to allow plain text search with collators, you would
need to choose one as the base letter and the other one as a combining
diacritic with ignored higher-level differences, using either US
English or British/International English to fix the base letter (the
other letter would be an interlinear annotation for the second
orthography, either above or below the base letter).
Interlinear annotation... Yes, of course, you could write
anathemati<U+FFF9>z<U+FFFA>s<U+FFFB>e. Halas, the characters
U+FFF9 INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION ANCHOR
U+FFFA INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION SEPARATOR
U+FFFB INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION TERMINATOR
are not supported by any software I know.
2013/10/1 Steffen Daode <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Khaled Hosny <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
|Using TeX:
|
| \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
Using groff:
#!/bin/sh -
cat << \! > t.tr <http://t.tr>
.de zs
. nr #1 \\w'z'
\\Z'\
\\v'-.25v's\
\\h'-\\n(#1u'\
\\v'.5v'z\
'\
\\h'\\n(#1u'
. rr #1
..
Fraterni
.zs
e.
!
groff t.tr <http://t.tr> > t.ps <http://t.ps>
ps2pdf t.ps <http://t.ps>
rm t.tr <http://t.tr> t.ps <http://t.ps>
exit 0
(Can surely be tweaked.)
|Regards,
|Khaled
Ciao,
--steffen
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200
Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The Queen's
English: a
> manual of idiom and usage (1888)* [
> http://archive.org/details/queensenglishman00alfo]
>
> Is the way to indicate alternative s/z spellings used there
plain text
> (arguably, if it can be done with a typewriter, it is plain text)
I see a typeset book not an output of a typewriter.
> or rich text (ignoring the font size of letters s and z)?
>
> If it's the latter, what's the markup to achieve it?
Using TeX:
\def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
49. How are we to decide between {\it s} and {\it z} in such
words as
anathemati\s{}e, cauteri\s{}e, criti\-ci\s{}e, deodori\s{}e,
dogmati\s{}e,
fraterni\s{}e, and the rest? Many of these are derived from Greek
\bye
Regards,
Khaled
