Thanks! That comes out exactly right, although using math markup for linguistic purposes is, IMO, a stretch.
Leo On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Mark E. Shoulson <[email protected]> wrote: > |With MathML, you could||use:|| > || > ||anathemati||||<math><**mmultiscripts><none/><mi > mathvariant="roman">s</mi><mi mathvariant="roman">z</mi></**math>| (drop > that in an HTML document and take a look). > > This doesn't look like plain text to me. I don't think it argues in favor > of any sort of combining Z or general combinator mark. This is just what > markup is for. > > ~mark > > > On 10/01/2013 08:05 PM, Leo Broukhis wrote: > >> If my understanding of interlinear annotations is correct, to achieve >> similarity with the attached sample some markup will be required as well: >> >> anathemati<sup><U+FFF9>z<U+**FFFA>s<U+FFFB></sup>e. >> >> Leo >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jean-François Colson <[email protected]<mailto: >> [email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Le 01/10/13 15:39, Philippe Verdy a écrit : >> >>> In plain text, we would just use the [s|z] notation without >>> care about presentation & font sizes used in the rendered rich >>> text page. It correctly represent the intended alternation >>> without giving more importance to one base letter. >>> But it you wanted to allow plain text search with collators, you >>> would need to choose one as the base letter and the other >>> one as a combining diacritic with ignored higher-level >>> differences, using either US English or British/International >>> English to fix the base letter (the other letter would be an >>> interlinear annotation for the second orthography, either above >>> or below the base letter). >>> >>> >> Interlinear annotation… Yes, of course, you could write >> anathemati<U+FFF9>z<U+FFFA>s<**U+FFFB>e. Halas, the characters >> U+FFF9 INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION ANCHOR >> U+FFFA INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION SEPARATOR >> U+FFFB INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION TERMINATOR >> are not supported by any software I know. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 2013/10/1 Steffen Daode <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >>> Khaled Hosny <[email protected] >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>**> wrote: >>> |Using TeX: >>> | >>> | \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$} >>> >>> Using groff: >>> >>> #!/bin/sh - >>> >>> cat << \! > t.tr <http://t.tr> >>> >>> .de zs >>> . nr #1 \\w'z' >>> \\Z'\ >>> \\v'-.25v's\ >>> \\h'-\\n(#1u'\ >>> \\v'.5v'z\ >>> '\ >>> \\h'\\n(#1u' >>> . rr #1 >>> .. >>> Fraterni >>> .zs >>> e. >>> ! >>> >>> groff t.tr <http://t.tr> > t.ps <http://t.ps> >>> ps2pdf t.ps <http://t.ps> >>> rm t.tr <http://t.tr> t.ps <http://t.ps> >>> >>> exit 0 >>> >>> (Can surely be tweaked.) >>> >>> |Regards, >>> |Khaled >>> >>> Ciao, >>> >>> --steffen >>> >>> >>> ---------- Message transféré ---------- >>> From: Khaled Hosny <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>**> >>> To: Leo Broukhis <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >>> Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200 >>> Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK? >>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote: >>> > Hi All, >>> > >>> > Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The >>> Queen's English: a >>> > manual of idiom and usage (1888)* [ >>> > >>> http://archive.org/details/**queensenglishman00alfo<http://archive.org/details/queensenglishman00alfo> >>> ] >>> > >>> > Is the way to indicate alternative s/z spellings used there >>> plain text >>> > (arguably, if it can be done with a typewriter, it is plain >>> text) >>> >>> I see a typeset book not an output of a typewriter. >>> >>> > or rich text (ignoring the font size of letters s and z)? >>> > >>> > If it's the latter, what's the markup to achieve it? >>> >>> Using TeX: >>> >>> \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$} >>> >>> 49. How are we to decide between {\it s} and {\it z} in >>> such words as >>> anathemati\s{}e, cauteri\s{}e, criti\-ci\s{}e, >>> deodori\s{}e, dogmati\s{}e, >>> fraterni\s{}e, and the rest? Many of these are derived from >>> Greek >>> \bye >>> >>> Regards, >>> Khaled >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
