On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:32:15 -0300, Andrés Sanhueza wrote: > Hello. I was looking for info in Spanish about some rare punctuation symbols > and found one in some Spaniard XIX century books (vía Google books) I haven't > seen referenced anywhere. It was called "millar", which translates somewhat > like "thousand". It seems that it had at least four glyph variants, yet the > quality of the scans make it a bit difficult to reproduce exactly.
> A sample from "Manual del cajista" by José María Palacios (1845). > In the text the sing is given the look of a turned C with a lighting bold in > it Upscaled, it looks like a reversed C with two little overlaid solidi. I can't address the challenge to represent it in Unicode. As an approximation, one might suggest a turned C with (one) small solidus overlay: U+0186 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN O, U+0337 COMBINING SHORT SOLIDUS OVERLAY. Reversed C is available in lowercase only (U+2184 LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED C). > Another sample from "Gramática castellana fundada sobre principios > filosóficos" by Francesc Pons i Argentó (1850) > Now there's three glyphs variants. One is an stand-alone turned C. Other is a > turned C with two bars as an overlay. The other looks like two f's turned > 180°, or two j's with an small bar. In digital typography, these turned characters could IMO be raised on the baseline like it is current in Unicode. The second is in fact a turned Colon sign. This can be represented fairly well (at the condition that overlay combining diacritics are properly implemented): U+0186 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN O, U+20E6 COMBINING DOUBLE VERTICAL STROKE OVERLAY The third looks like a turned small ligature ff. I see no other way than using two turned f's (eventually with reduced letter spacing): U+025F LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS J WITH STROKE, U+025F LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS J WITH STROKE > Another sample from "Manual de la tipografia española, ó sea, El Arte de la > imprenta" by Antoni Serra i Oliveres (1852). > In this one, the millar looks like an straight C with two overlay bars. This being now U+20A1 COLON SIGN, use as thousand sign would be biased. On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:32:17 -0800, Ken Shirriff wrote: > Take a look at this book, which describes millar symbols: 20ↄ and 40JJ > (approximately) U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O as a thousands sign is straightforward, especially with Elzevirian digits as quoted from "Critica de lenguaje" by Féliz Ramos i Duarte (1896). When for double J uppercase is preferred, I suppose that's to have it dotless. This is available in lowercase: U+0237 LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS J, U+0237 LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS J. I'm not sure whether I've replied what Andrés really intended to learn by launching the thread. In any case I took it as a touchstone for Unicode completeness. Best regards, Marcel
