I'm not exactly sure how this all relates to west philly, but I suppose that
the election is the most newsworthy topic of discussion for most people; all
of the lists I subscribe to are temporarially "election discussion" lists.
So here's my plea. Try not to blame the outcome of the election on
moralists or religious whackos or whatever. I'm not sure that is where this
discussion is going, but it sure did on other lists and so I'd like to try
and prevent that here.
I'm not a member of a political party because I don't see that either group
represents my interests very well. I toss my tiny bit of support one way or
another depending on the election. I am also a Christian, though I
certainly don't identify with the conservative Christian ideology. The
problem is, the Democrats can't seem to put a candidate on the ticket that I
can wholehartedly support.
Folks like me are tired of being told who we must vote for because of our
faith when neither group really takes positions that we hold as important.
There are lots of other progressive Christians out there, but they need to
be courted and split away from the "religious right". This would take a
mighty chunk from the Republican base of support. I don't think the
Democrats are going to do this though, because to court these people, they
run the risk of turning off some of the more liberal elements of their
support.
So maybe someone out there has an idea how to organize the "Religious Left"
to help counter the "Religious Right" or what that might look like. I truly
feel for folks (in Ohio and elsewhere) who may have wanted to vote for John
Kerry but couldn't quite do it because the national discussion of religious
values was given up to the conservatives and nobody really talked about the
flaws in the theology of just wars, the inconsistancy of being anti-abortion
and pro-death pentalty, the invasion of foreign lands flying in the face of
Christs' call to "turn the other cheek", etcetera, etcetera.
My $.02 for what it is worth.
To read what someone who really knows how to write said about some of this,
there is a statement put together by some theologeans at Fuller Seminary at:
http://www.fullerseminary.net/sot/faculty/stassen/Resource_files/confessingc
hrist.pdf
-j. scott clinton
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilma de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Mark Krull; Jonathan Cass; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Bush Victory
Yes, it certainly is. Moreover, the "Heartland" which decides the course of
this country is the least likely place where a terrorist attack will occur.
They are prone to attack major metropolitan areas large, financial districts
or seats of national government; namely the Eastern Seaboard and West Coats
which went heavily for Kerry.
Anyway, he was duly elected and we have to respect that we live in a
different country from The Heartland. Fortunately, we are exposed to many
more things and have a larger point of view that they do not see.
I went to college in Ohio and I know whereof I speak.
On 11/3/04 9:48 AM, "Mark Krull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Its depressing really. It was "values" that led to this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Cass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Nov 3, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Bush Victory
The only silver lining I can see is that Bush is going have to deal
with the mess that he created in Iraq and the next terrorist attack
that will likely occur on his watch.
I don't even want to think about what is going to happen with the
Supreme Court.
I think I am going to puke.
Jonathan A. Cass
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Melinda E Salmon/Health/Phila is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 11/02/2004 and will not return
until 11/05/2004.
I will reply to your email upon my return.
Thanks.
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