The description of "Southwest Center City" is too broad. It defines it as
Lombard to Oregon, Broad St to the Schuylkill River, which is wrong. The
southern boundary is Washington Avenue. It's what most people think of as
where Center City ends and South Philadelphia begins.
Otherwise the definition's including Point Breeze (south of Washington, east
of 25th) and Grays Ferry (roughly south and west of 27th and Federal as it
merges with Grays Ferry Avenue, and scene of infamous racial battles of the
1960's and 70's)
From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: B Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] New Marketing Campaign
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:15:42 -0400
Not really. The descriptions on that page are pretty vague. "Schuylkill
River west to the city limits, below Baltimore Avenue." would be fine if
Baltimore Ave. intersected with the river somewhere but it doesn't. It's
true for most of Baltimore Ave. but not all of it. Using that description,
what happens below 38th St./University Ave.?
Other examples are "Stonehouse Lane: South of 5th and Ritner Streets." or
"Uberville: Vicinity of Ridge Avenue, near Oxford Street" or "West End:
Vicinity of 61st Street and Larchwood Avenue." They are not only inexact
but all contained within other neighborhoods.
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 03:55 PM, B Andersen wrote:
It still disagrees with http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/
pname3.htm
On 4/2/07, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Enough speculation and unreliable Wackypedia {{NPOV}} entries.
A great PDF from Philadelphia City Planning Commission "The Political and
Community Service Boundaries of Philadelphia":
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/boundaries.pdf
The PDF includes a map showing Baltimore Ave as the boundary between W
and SW Philadelphia, *only* above 50th St. The eastern end of the
dividing line is at Grays Ferry Ave. and the river. Then it zigzags NW to
50th & Baltimore and follows Baltimore to Cobbs Creek. The streets aren't
all marked but page 36 (PDF page 42) has the clearest map, I think.
PCPC maps page, not as useful but interesting:
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/datamaps.html
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/2007 9:44:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, I've been worrying about this Southwest/West Philly business
for some time. What are the "actual" boundaries, and according to whom?
You seem to imply that SOBA is Southwest Philly -- if the 34 trolley
line really does bifurcate the two. Does that mean that Woodland
Cemetery and Clark Park are actually in SW? Seems counterintuitive,
dude. Got maps?
In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:21:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is discordance among the wikipedia articles ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_City%2C_Philadelphia%
2C_Pennsylvania
The definitions say south of Balitomore ... the maps show the Schuylkill
... I always heard it was Woodland.
The City Planning Commission, long ago, declared it SOBA http://
www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/pname3.htm . Or, call City planning
to confirm.
Of course a SW Philadelphia in "University City" didn't and still
doesn't sit well with some of the merchandisers of real estate, who
needed to disassociate the immediate off-campus SW areas from the
Kingsessing area of SW, which rapidly deteriorated due to some
particularly poor FHA mortgage underwriting standards implemented in the
mid 1950's, more so than anything having to do with the race of the then
new buyers. (During the current sub-prime mortgage shake-out, we'll get
to see a lot of middle class white folk get smoked by misunderstanding
the implications of their interest-only and/or negative amortizing
mortgages.)
Enjoy your stay in SW, and while you are here maybe you too can help to
stem the tide of local violence, instill a practical sense of social
justice, and make SW Philly a better place for all of its residents to
live work and learn; the same things decent people everywhere desire.
Ciao,
Craig
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