Not really. The descriptions on that page are pretty vague.
"Schuylkill River west to the city limits, below Baltimore Avenue."
would be fine if Baltimore Ave. intersected with the river somewhere
but it doesn't. It's true for most of Baltimore Ave. but not all of
it. Using that description, what happens below 38th St./University Ave.?
Other examples are "Stonehouse Lane: South of 5th and Ritner
Streets." or "Uberville: Vicinity of Ridge Avenue, near Oxford
Street" or "West End: Vicinity of 61st Street and Larchwood Avenue."
They are not only inexact but all contained within other neighborhoods.
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 03:55 PM, B Andersen wrote:
It still disagrees with http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/
pname3.htm
On 4/2/07, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Enough speculation and unreliable Wackypedia {{NPOV}} entries.
A great PDF from Philadelphia City Planning Commission "The
Political and Community Service Boundaries of Philadelphia":
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/boundaries.pdf
The PDF includes a map showing Baltimore Ave as the boundary
between W and SW Philadelphia, *only* above 50th St. The eastern
end of the dividing line is at Grays Ferry Ave. and the river. Then
it zigzags NW to 50th & Baltimore and follows Baltimore to Cobbs
Creek. The streets aren't all marked but page 36 (PDF page 42) has
the clearest map, I think.
PCPC maps page, not as useful but interesting:
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/datamaps.html
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/2007 9:44:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, I've been worrying about this Southwest/West Philly
business for some time. What are the "actual" boundaries, and
according to whom? You seem to imply that SOBA is Southwest Philly
-- if the 34 trolley line really does bifurcate the two. Does that
mean that Woodland Cemetery and Clark Park are actually in SW?
Seems counterintuitive, dude. Got maps?
In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:21:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is discordance among the wikipedia articles ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_City%2C_Philadelphia%
2C_Pennsylvania
The definitions say south of Balitomore ... the maps show the
Schuylkill ... I always heard it was Woodland.
The City Planning Commission, long ago, declared it SOBA http://
www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/pname3.htm . Or, call City
planning to confirm.
Of course a SW Philadelphia in "University City" didn't and still
doesn't sit well with some of the merchandisers of real estate,
who needed to disassociate the immediate off-campus SW areas from
the Kingsessing area of SW, which rapidly deteriorated due to some
particularly poor FHA mortgage underwriting standards implemented
in the mid 1950's, more so than anything having to do with the
race of the then new buyers. (During the current sub-prime
mortgage shake-out, we'll get to see a lot of middle class white
folk get smoked by misunderstanding the implications of their
interest-only and/or negative amortizing mortgages.)
Enjoy your stay in SW, and while you are here maybe you too can
help to stem the tide of local violence, instill a practical sense
of social justice, and make SW Philly a better place for all of
its residents to live work and learn; the same things decent
people everywhere desire.
Ciao,
Craig
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