Hi, Sharrieff, I have a couple of thoughts or questions about the points raised earlier by Doc Baldy, to which you responded below:
In a message dated 6/14/07 7:45:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1) Racial Discrimination has been alleged because of > the disproportionate amount of whites in management > versus blacks hired for the service side. Research > and proof will need to be presented during the forum > process. > > As you certainly know, racial discrimination is a very serious accusation. In my business, real estate, one would best substantiate a claim by showing that several parties with the same qualifications, but different races, had been treated differently. Does anyone know of any qualified black job applicants who applied to UDC for openings and were turned down? If not, what kind of research and proof does your group expect to be able to present? > 2) The popular opinion is John became the fall guy for UCD > after what many feel was a caving-in from "media pressure" > by CCD and UCD without any real facts against John. > > Doesn't it seem that the listserv is exerting more pressure than any other source, on this issue? Although our pressure seems mostly internal, except for its relationship to last Thursday's Glenn Bryan meeting. I noticed that accounts of that meeting made several references to the media being present - to a reporter or reporters, and I thought to a tv crew, though I don't have time to go back and read through every email again to find the accounts. I've been curious, ever since we received word of the events of that meeting, as to whether or not any media reporting was made of it afterwards? I didn't see any mention of reporting. No one posted a link to anything, though we have some pretty talented researchers on the list. Did the media do anything at all, or should we assume that they didn't find it newsworthy? I think the pressure on the UCD may have arisen from 1) appropriate concern about whether or not the law and/or IRS requirements had been compromised; 2) the Councilwoman's strong reactions to her role in the student's accusations; 3) anti BID folks - Al Krigman, to be specific, since he announced on this list that he was delighted with this situation - threatening the UCD with acti ons if they didn't look into the allegations; 4) the listserv itself rushing to judge the UCD, accusing the UCD of just about everything under the sun. All of these happenings created a volatile atmosphere where any action could cause even more chaos. Some parties seemed to react by eagerly jumping into the fray and trying to cause all-out war, while other parties seemed to try to avoid that. Both jumping in, and avoiding jumping in, are now being criticized. It's hard to imagine what might have been the right thing to do, when there seems to be criticism for every possibility. > 3) We discussed what UCD-Affiliated would mean and suggested > excluding employees and Board Members. Residents who donate > money would be too loose of a definition. > > This is very sticky, no matter what you decide. I think that one of the complaints some neighbors have made to the Councilwoman is that they felt that the UCD did not include every single community member in planning efforts. And there have been complaints that UCD folks didn't come and listen to complaints about them. So, is it appropriate for this new group to actually put in writing an "exclusion" policy which community members have decried in the past? If UCD folks are excluded here, then how will you get them to participate when the Organizing Committee has questions and/or needs info from them, and again later, as your group moves forward? (For example, it seems that the Organizing Committee might need information, in advance, from the UCD about the Public Forum Topics, and might want UCD folks to attend Public Forums - especially the last one which you mention under the heading "UC-Review" as "Moderate Final Public Forum for review of recommendations by panel representing UCD, Institutions and their Funders." Am I misreading, or would you want the groups named to be present for that meeting? I don't know of any UCD affiliates who might want to participate; I'm just wondering about the exclusion principle. Melani Lamond ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
