It's working as of 4:40 pm. You can search by four types of report (Accident,
Burglary, Stolen Auto, Theft), plus by date, time, and precinct. Nothing shows
up for 10 PM 8/1/07 through 2 AM 8/2/07 for the 18th District under any of the
four categories except Accident (one entry, 54th and Walnut). I'd give it a
couple of days, it's possible not everything's been added yet (how likely is it
that the only thing that required a written report in the entire 18th District
for four hours was one car accident?). Word of caution: in any event, this is
negative info - it says what's not there, not what is: that there was no
report, not that there was no incident (if you catch my double negatives).
Al Airone
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] important crime report information, car jacking
pdreports.phila.gov doesn't exist or is unreachable today
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Glenn wrote:
Neighbors,
I received the e-mail copied below yesterday morning. It claims to be
brother of the victim and asserts that the earlier report of a 44th and
Larchwood, August 1, car jacking was in fact true. I responded to the strange
e-mail immediately but have gotten no reply.
The yahoo account e-mail included a signature this time but I did not
include this until after I go to police headquarters with it. It’s a little
freaky that there is some unidentified sneaky member of this list or the
censored, private, University of Pennsylvania listserv with lots of information
and connections to this alleged serious incident, but who will not come forward
to confirm it. I’m just getting these private communications from
unidentifiable strangers as if my private knowledge of their crime story is the
issue.
I can’t understand why anyone needs to convince me while the police have
the only incident recorded at that very location as removal of an abandoned
car!!!!! The entire community also needs to know the truth not just me!
The sender of this e-mail seems unaware that his sister should have an
incident number. Not only are these "extraordinarily polite and helpful" armed
car jackers not being pursued if the police bungled at this level but the
victim won’t get insurance money for her SUV!.
For the benefit of the list to verify no stolen vehicle with the police:
http://pdreports.phila.gov/arpublic/ARComFindDC.asp
What if the polite criminals use her car in another violent incident and
the police get the correct plate number? If this isn’t straightened out and is
true, the sister of this writer could find herself the target of the police who
don’t consider her a victim!!!!!!
All of this stuff is too much and scary. I’ll have to go to police
headquarters tomorrow morning as this gets deeper. I don’t have the time for
this but this is getting too scary. I'll be sure to give a report to the list.
If this sneaky list member with information about this affair (who
allegedly forwarded my post to this writer) could come forward, the community
might be able to get the truth! One way or the other, this is a serious matter
for all of us!
This is either about serious unsolved crime right here and unacceptable
police incompetence or a serious coordinated internet campaign to lie and
spread fear that is centered right here. What is the truth? Here is the e-mail:
""Dear Glenn,
I recieved this forward from a friend who belongs to some information list
(I'm not really sure):
"David,
I went to the 18th distrrict. Apparently, the report of a car jacking was
false. I will again confirm and report back to the uncensored list.
I will not again forward information for you to share with the civil
censored Penn list. For your own sake, I suggest that you get away from them.
Please inform them that from current reports, the earlier report of armed black
men committing car jackings is false.
If some young black kid runs in fear from the police because frightened
neighbors respond with increased fear, I would feel terrible if I didn't make
the best effort to inform even barking cheese.
I'm planning to give a copy of your forward to the police. It identifies
both lists as well as Mr. West. I will be certain that they understand that
you were simply forwarding this to an uncensored list of some 300+ people in
good faith. You are unfortunately a witness to all of this.
Thanks for sharing this with your neighbors.
Glenn Moyer"
I wish you were correct. I am the brother of the woman and the Uncle of
her son who were both held up with the use of a gun by two young black males.
My sister was getting out of her SUV after picking up my nephew from my house
around 10:20. I recieved a call around 11:15 from my sister from the 18th
district police station at 55th and Pine. I spent over two hours with my her,
her son, and my brother-in-law, waiting for the detectives outside there office
while they took about an hour to see them, and another hour to ask about ten
questions. In addition to this, the car that the two young black males had
parked in order to rob my sister was supposed to be towed by the officers of
the the 18th district. They towed my sister's neighbor's car instead and in
fact practically ripped off the front axel. This mistake was due to the
incompetence of some officer who had written th wrong plate number, supposedly.
The men who robbed my sister in fact were polite enough to help her unload
small desk and even allowed her to keep her purse. The gun that they had was
never drawn on them, but was simply flashed from one of the men's belt. When
she told the police this they did not even consider to collect finger prints on
the desk. After my sister made some phone calls to a friend who works on the
CSI unit, two of his men came over to collect the desk in order to properly
check for prints. I'm unsure of to whom you may have spoken, but they have
grossly misinformed you.
Sincerely, ""
There you have it! What do folks think about all of this?
Glenn Moyer
