----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Cindy Miller ; univcity 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [UC] Illegal trash update


  Hmmm.  While I can't answer the specific sanitation pickup question, I'm 
surprised that you would besmirch an entire class of people on this listserve.  
Many of my City Worker colleagues work unpaid and uncomped. extra hours to get 
the job done on behalf of the public good.  Some of them even donate their time 
on community trash pickups around the city.



  Andy,

  I agree. It’s not helpful but hurtful to stereotype city workers unfairly. I 
started the post about illegal trash, which is a smelly and emotional issue 
here.

  Unfortunately, there is a serious problem with the "working relationship" 
between the city Streets Department and UCD. I approached Mayor Nutter’s 
complaint department approximately 3 weeks ago. I expect follow-up shortly, 
because I was told it would take 3 weeks. I’ll report to the list about my 
success or failure.

  Maybe you can help with any idea?

  The city is suing me for 3 trash tickets for $962. It is very important to me 
that I do not simply get this frivolous suit against me thrown out. I’ve 
considered approaching state or federal authorities about the transfer of city 
enforcement power. 

  I’d rather get a city investigation into this inappropriate relationship, and 
a court injunction against the city to halt additional frivolous suits against 
citizens over trash tickets. I'd love a broad injunction against city agencies 
prohibiting any continued engagement with any inappropriate relationships with 
the UCD or other Penn driven entities. I’m beginning to look into the 
appropriate legal possibilities. Phila. Municipal court is a strange thing and 
maybe I should simply go to the next court, but I'm starting to realize that 
legal action is becoming the hope for the US Constitution and my continued 
residence in Philadelphia.  

  I don’t want to do my best to make the city or any employees get exposed as 
Penns' hounds.  Yet, I'm very angry about all of this.  Are there any other 
internal mechanisms in the city to encourage a needed investigation into the 
Streets Department enforcement division that you can suggest? 

  It's not good for city agencies to intimidate citizens in the interest of 
corporate gentrification goals.  There is lots of evidence that undue stress is 
bad for public and personal health.  I appreciate any thoughts.

  Sincerely,

  Glenn Moyer










  Just as we shouldn't judge all dog owners and walkers by the bad actions of 
the few who use my tiny yard as a puppy latrine, please consider a more 
balanced critique of our public employees (oh, you meant THOSE City Workers?  
Never mind!).

  Here are a few thoughts you can try to internalize as part of your 
re-orientation towards our public workforce:

  1.  Some of my best friends are City Workers

  2.  Michael Nutter is a City Worker

  3. Osama bid Laden is NOT a City Worker.

  4.  When you smile at a City Worker, the city smiles with you.

  Not actually offended,

  Andy



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   ----- Original Message -----
    From: Cindy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: 01/25/2008 08:45 AM EST
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [UC] Illegal trash update



  So in essence, city sanitation workers would never really have a 4-day 
week..even if they get a holiday, they'd have to make it up on a Saturday?


  CITY WORKERS? Surely you jest!




  -cm

  `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>



  On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


    Well, the newspaper notice always says that collections will be a day late 
for the rest of the week, so I always thought that meant Friday routes were 
done on Saturday.  How else could it be done?





    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: UnivCity listserv <[email protected]>
    Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 4:22 am
    Subject: Re: [UC] Illegal trash update


    Our block lucked out this week. 
     
    Does anybody know the scheduling details of how Streets copes with the 
periodic challenge of removing 5 days' worth of trash in a 4-day week? Now 
they've got dueling programs, thus twice as many opportunities to fall behind. 
There must be more to it than meets the eye. 
     
    I've long been tied to a similar industry in my private life, for several 
different employers, and 4-day weeks are always a killer for us as well. 
Sometimes we pull it off gracefully, sometimes less so. So I feel some sympathy 
for the trashmen and I'm curious how they go about it. 
     
    -- Tony West 
     
    > They took my recycling today but left the trash. > 
    > Paul 
    > 
    > 
    > -----Original Message----- 
    > From: Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
    > To: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; UnivCity listserv > 
<[email protected]> 
    > Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 8:21 pm 
    > Subject: Re: [UC] Illegal trash update 
    > 
    > I put the trash and recyclables today after checking last evening if > it 
was a Blue Week. 
    > 
    > There were empty Recycling Receptacles across the street, but mine > were 
not collected. 
    > 
    > Well, better luck in two weeks. 
     
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