so far this hotel plan has been delivered piecemeal, pitched to limited groups and tete-a-tetes over coffee, each time with newly questionable reasons from the developer to justify it. there hasn't been one community-wide forum (public, inclusive, properly announced, in a non-penn setting) to examine this proposal, which continues to be a moving target.

The developers are going to great lengths to whip up support outside of the community. But as you point out; they have not made any attempt to host a real community forum to get any genuine feedback here. At this point, it seems likely that they're going to continue trawling for endorsements from cronies and using these drawings. I believe, Penn will use their power to tower over us like they have been doing for decades.

After all the deception, I think the developers know that it is too late, had they ever hoped to actually gain community support. They just want to cry that they're not treated fairly by the meanies of Woodland Terrace to justify not having a forum for the community residents


Thanks for putting together this timeline for all of us.

I was definitely thinking about the drawing in the Illadelph blog, Oct. UC Review and Phillyblog. I was at Houston Hall on Wed and saw that view again in something I was looking at. I thought it was the DP. As I recall, it was that same extremely distorted view but small in black and white only. Now, I want to go to Houston Hall and try to find it.

It is hard to keep up with the spin in this "moving target" This time line is very helpful!

Glenn


----- Original Message ----- From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "univcity" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] That hotel again...


Glenn wrote:
Frank and Ray,

Did either of you see the paper copy of the DP?



there's only been 2 articles about this hotel in the dp. the first was on dec 6 and the print version simply showed a graphic of the monopoly board game (the article was entitled "Developers want to pass go, collect $200; neighborhood hesitant").

   http://tinyurl.com/36d78e

the second article appeared this week, jan 23, and it did not have any illustration; it was buried on p. 10 as a general article about hotels being planned in philly.

   http://tinyurl.com/ywr8sj

I first discovered lussenhop's distorted early drawing on the 'illadelph blog' on dec 2:

   http://tinyurl.com/22p8ex

this distorted drawing was similar to the one originally published by uc review on oct 10, when it first broke the news about the 10-story hotel:

   http://www.ucreview.com/clients/ucreview/071010.jpg

then on jan 16 uc review printed marianna thomas' drawings, showing the hotel as having more mass/scale/height than lussenhop's earlier drawings:

   http://tinyurl.com/258yq9

a week later uc review published lussenhop's revised drawing, which now closely matches thomas' drawing (and what one would see in person after walking over to the radian and comparing 11 stories with an adjacent 3 story mansion):

   http://tinyurl.com/238daf

lussenhop's new drawing shows dramatically how his earlier drawings were a distortion, and it's now quite plain, to anyone looking at the new drawing, just how far this hotel is out of character and scale with the neighborhood around 40th and pine.


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so far this hotel plan has been delivered piecemeal, pitched to limited groups and tete-a-tetes over coffee, each time with newly questionable reasons from the developer to justify it. there hasn't been one community-wide forum (public, inclusive, properly announced, in a non-penn setting) to examine this proposal, which continues to be a moving target.

the one constant in all this is lussenhop's adherence to the massive height/mass/scale of an 11-story hotel, and neighbors' opposition to that and its consequences.



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