I am not making a faulty assumption. Please re-read what I wrote. I never said "UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations" (copying and pasting your exact phraseology). I wrote (copying and pasting again) "[i]f UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to the City". Nowhere in that did I say that UCD should have cited anyone. However, if UCD has established a policy and a relationship with the City wherein it forwards information regarding trash violations, the violations that Glenn pointed out should have been collected and forwarded for the City to respond to. And if they did not do so in light of that policy, then why?
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:43:30 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [UC] Public reportKaren, You're taking Glenn's word for it. And you're making the same faulty assumption that Glenn is making, and that is that UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations. They are not. Only employees of the Streets Dept. can cite trash violations. Did Glenn call the Streets Dept. himself? Did you, Glenn? If Glenn wants someone violating a trash collection ordinance to be cited for that violation, he needs to alert the Streets Dept. and have them send somebody over to 41st and Pine. Not having seen this area of sidewalk yesterday, or Glenn's photos, I can't even assume there was a violation at all.Mario On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Glenn wrote:>"Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses >>for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is >not done >on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a >list of "offenders" by >way of the phone at later dates. >>I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. >Kingsley to call >enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were >>recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. >Kingsley and >Bryant left without any effort to record the various >addresses. All UCD staff >refused pictures." If UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash >offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and >forwarded it on to the City. If UCD refused to do so when Glenn pointed out >that the violations were on Campus Apartments properties, one would have to >ask whether UCD is selectively forwarding or not forwarding these violations >on the basis of favoritism. It should be noted that David Adelman, the owner >of Campus Apartments, is on UCD's board of directors, was a leading member of >the NID/BID steering committee, and is a partner in the 40th and Pine hotel >project, for which UCD wrote a letter of support to the Philadelphia Historic >Commission. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:01 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [UC] Public report Glenn, It isn't UCD's responsibility to cite trash violations; that is the responsibility of the municipal government. If you're so anxious to indict anyone for trash collection violations, why don't you call the Philadelphia Streets Department (215-686-5560) yourself. Send them your photos of the property and the offending trash. As far UCD's "working relationship" with the Streets Department is concerned, I think the fact that they deal with the public sidewalk trashcans in UC, they operate/organize sidewalk clean-ups with the community and offer other "clean streets" support that are a community service that the city government recognizes and appreciates as do some of us living in UC. I seem to remember a discussion of people in the hood on the listserv talking about UCD writing trash tickets for the Streets Dept. employees that they had no authority to write. I remember most folks on the listserv thinking that UCD should never have written trash tickets specifically because it was the city government's responsibility, not the responsibility of a non-government NID/BID or community support services entity.Mario On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: February 19, 2008, 4:30 PM, 41st and Pine St.Mr. Dexter Bryant and Chris Kingsely of UCD meet Glenn Moyer after 2 UCD employees are flagged down and call Mr. Bryant. Trash has been placed on the sidewalk in front of various Campus Apt buildings on Pine St between 40 th and 42nd Sts. Also on 41st St. I met Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsely of the UCD at 4:25 PM. As of 3:30 PM, the regular trash violations of Campus Apts were photographed on Pine St and 41st St. On this holiday week, trash cannot be put out until Wed. after 7 PM. Several piles exceeded the limits on amount of trash.Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsley refuse to call the city of Philadelphia Streets Department on the spot. Four separate UCD employees refuse to call city enforcement officers. They do not record any of the violation addresses. Mr. Kingsley and Mr. Bryant inform me that I need to contact the property manager.I inform Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley that Deputy Commissioner Carlton Williams of the Phila. Dept. of Streets is on record describing a "working relationship" between the city and UCD. Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of "offenders" by way of the phone at later dates. I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort to record the various addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures. Glenn Moyer, 5:23 PM, 2/19/08
