Glenn and Karen,
I called Dexter Bryant today today to ask if anything had been done
after Glenn's report about the alleged trash violation. He said that if, and
here's the important word, *enough* people sent in a complaint about a
certain resident or citizen's possible trash violation, then they
*might*phone in to the Streets Dept. themselves to have a Streets
Dept. employee
come around and check. Even then, they can't assure that someone from the
Streets Dept. will actually come by. Evidently, the fastest and most
appropriate way for Glenn or anyone for that matter to get a response to a
potential trash violation is to call the Streets Dept. directly and not even
bother getting UCD involved.
Glenn's trying to make the argument that UCD violated a legal
obligation, which they haven't. UCD's compiling of the addresses of possible
trash collection violators is not a legally required action. If someone is
derelict enough to commit a trash violation that bothers enough neighbors or
community members, then UCD likes to help out by making sure that the
Streets Dept. is sent word. They don't have to do it. While the argument
that they're doing it selectively and not every time someone complains may
be valid, it's also meaningless. UCD themselves can't deal with the trash
violation and we have no right to force them to call the city government on
our behalf every time one of us has a complaint. We're individually
responsible for filing such a legal complaint.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not making a faulty assumption. Please re-read what I wrote. I
> never said "UCD is legally responsible for citing trash violations" (copying
> and pasting your exact phraseology).
>
> I wrote (copying and pasting again) "[i]f UCD compiles and forwards lists
> of addresses of trash offenders to the City, then UCD should have taken
> Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to the City". Nowhere in that did
> I say that UCD should have cited anyone.
>
> However, if UCD has established a policy and a relationship with the City
> wherein it forwards information regarding trash violations, the violations
> that Glenn pointed out should have been collected and forwarded for the City
> to respond to. And if they did not do so in light of that policy, then why?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:43:30 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
>
> Subject: Re: [UC] Public report
>
> Karen,
>
> You're taking Glenn's word for it. And you're making the same faulty
> assumption that Glenn is making, and that is that UCD is legally responsible
> for citing trash violations. They are not. Only employees of the Streets
> Dept. can cite trash violations. Did Glenn call the Streets Dept. himself?
> Did you, Glenn? If Glenn wants someone violating a trash collection
> ordinance to be cited for that violation, he needs to alert the Streets
> Dept. and have them send somebody over to 41st and Pine. Not having seen
> this area of sidewalk yesterday, or Glenn's photos, I can't even assume
> there was a violation at all.
>
>
> Mario
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:19 AM, KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Glenn wrote:
> >"Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses >for
> the city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is >not done on
> the basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a >list of "offenders" by
> way of the phone at later dates.
> >
> >I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call >enforcement
> officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were >recorded by any of the UCD
> employees. As I walked away, Mr. >Kingsley and Bryant left without any
> effort to record the various >addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures."
>
> If UCD compiles and forwards lists of addresses of trash offenders to the
> City, then UCD should have taken Glenn's information, and forwarded it on to
> the City.
>
> If UCD refused to do so when Glenn pointed out that the violations were on
> Campus Apartments properties, one would have to ask whether UCD is
> selectively forwarding or not forwarding these violations on the basis of
> favoritism. It should be noted that David Adelman, the owner of Campus
> Apartments, is on UCD's board of directors, was a leading member of the
> NID/BID steering committee, and is a partner in the 40th and Pine hotel
> project, for which UCD wrote a letter of support to the Philadelphia
> Historic Commission.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:01 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UC] Public report
>
>
> Glenn,
>
> It isn't UCD's responsibility to cite trash violations; that is the
> responsibility of the municipal government. If you're so anxious to indict
> anyone for trash collection violations, why don't you call the Philadelphia
> Streets Department (215-686-5560) yourself. Send them your photos of the
> property and the offending trash. As far UCD's "working relationship" with
> the Streets Department is concerned, I think the fact that they deal with
> the public sidewalk trashcans in UC, they operate/organize sidewalk
> clean-ups with the community and offer other "clean streets" support that
> are a community service that the city government recognizes and appreciates
> as do some of us living in UC.
>
> I seem to remember a discussion of people in the hood on the listserv
> talking about UCD writing trash tickets for the Streets Dept. employees that
> they had no authority to write. I remember most folks on the listserv
> thinking that UCD should never have written trash tickets specifically
> because it was the city government's responsibility, not the responsibility
> of a non-government NID/BID or community support services entity.
>
>
> Mario
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> February 19, 2008, 4:30 PM, 41st and Pine St.
> Mr. Dexter Bryant and Chris Kingsely of UCD meet Glenn Moyer after 2 UCD
> employees are flagged down and call Mr. Bryant. Trash has been placed on the
> sidewalk in front of various Campus Apt buildings on Pine St between 40 th
> and 42nd Sts. Also on 41st St.
>
> I met Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsely of the UCD at 4:25 PM. As
> of 3:30 PM, the regular trash violations of Campus Apts were photographed on
> Pine St and 41st St. On this holiday week, trash cannot be put out until
> Wed. after 7 PM. Several piles exceeded the limits on amount of trash.
> Mr. Dexter Bryant and Mr. Chris Kingsley refuse to call the city of
> Philadelphia Streets Department on the spot. Four separate UCD employees
> refuse to call city enforcement officers. They do not record any of the
> violation addresses. Mr. Kingsley and Mr. Bryant inform me that I need to
> contact the property manager.
> I inform Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley that Deputy Commissioner Carlton
> Williams of the Phila. Dept. of Streets is on record describing a "working
> relationship" between the city and UCD.
> Mr. Dexter Bryant confirms that UCD compiles a list of addresses for the
> city enforcement officers and provides addresses. This is not done on the
> basis of an immediate violation. UCD provides a list of "offenders" by way
> of the phone at later dates.
> I asked repeatedly for Mr. Bryant and Mr. Kingsley to call enforcement
> officers. None of the Campus Apt. addresses were recorded by any of the UCD
> employees. As I walked away, Mr. Kingsley and Bryant left without any effort
> to record the various addresses. All UCD staff refused pictures.
> Glenn Moyer, 5:23 PM, 2/19/08
>
>
>
>
>
