Re: [UC] PCPC and indictment

[Glenn moyer]

"A Commission with weighty responsibilities should provide transcripts of proceedings for the public record that ensure a paper trail that gives their decisions verifiability.   Instead, the sloppy record of the hearing tells us that it's business as usual. "     This goes way beyond sloppy record keeping.  This is falsification of the official record.  These "minutes" even pretend to be transcripts to more completely fool the public    A review of this false record indicates a 2-3 minute meeting at which a bunch of NIMBY's are opposed to progress while refusing any explanation.  As anyone reviews this, they would ask, Why didn't a single NIMBY offer even one reason for opposition that day?   Minutes are a minute by minute record of important proceedings.  The Philadelphia City Planning Commission and Philadelphia Historic Commission are boldly and openly lying to the public when they call this crap minutes or transcripts!   This is not a simple one time mistake by the person taking minutes as suggested in Mr Siano's response.  It was the Commission that approved these "minutes"  It is Andrew Altman, Alan Greenburger, Patrick J Eiding, Anuj Gupta representing Camille Cates Barnet, Bernard Lee, Natalia Olsen de Savyckyj, Nilda Ruiz, Joseph Smick, Peggy Van Belle representing Rob Dubow whom are responsible for this false record!  Gary J Jastrzab is acting executive director.   If our neighbors rally and send a certified letter (with a copy of this falsified record) to the mayor and all journalists covering the pay to play system, I suspect the front line employee will be singled out to take the fall.  At the PHC, I saw first hand that the primary responsibility of these employees is to gaurd the real record from the prying public.  If our neighborhood exposes this corrupt system, these employees will be fentonized in order to maintain the status quo.   Do none of these people understand the importance of public records in a representative democracy?  This paper trail is not some footnote but the foundation of a democratic process and American ideals!  These minutes are documentation  of a Boss Tweed government.   Glenn     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 11, 2008 5:27 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] PCPC and indictment In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:40:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KAREN ALLEN wrote: > Thanks, Glenn, for posting this. >  > The minutes simply report the names of the people who testified in > opposition. There is NO reporting of what was said.  How can the > Commission  or outside parties review the differing positions fairly if > the reasons for the opposition are not reported???  >  > Andd you're right, Glenn, your name isn't even listed!!! There is a "Ben Boyer" listed among those introduced by David Fineman. I suspect that the person taking the minutes misheard it. They got mine wrong, too.   Considering that Mr Fineman provided the list it writing and also supplied the Commission with the prepared text of all of our testimonies, these minutes do not instill confidence that this Commission is meeting the new level of responsibility assigned to it by the mayor.   A Commission with weighty responsibilities should provide transcripts of proceedings for the public record that ensure a paper trail that gives their decisions verifiability.   Instead, the sloppy record of the hearing tells us that it's business as usual.   Al Krigman reminding you that you read it first, here, on the popu-list Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .