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"The minutes simply report the names of the people who testified in opposition. There is NO reporting of what was said. How can the Commission or outside parties review the differing positions fairly if the reasons for the opposition are not reported???"
Ah Karen. You ask such mean, processaholic questions. But NIMBY's never offer reasons for their views. NIMBY's have a "knee jerk reaction" and sit around yelling "NO" to all great visions. This record shows precisely how NIMBY's behave when they try to destroy progress and hurt everyone.
This public record is very clear. The PCPC staff worked hard to approve the vision for the hotel. Tom brilliantly answered all possible objections. A group of silly, stupid NIMBY's sat in silence while their lawyer said, NO! NO! NO!
It's all right there in the official minutes of the city of Philadelphia!
I'm glad the names of the NIMBY's were reported. The district's worst offenders list needed some new targets for trash tickets and L&I raids. What other reason for listing the NIMBY names; could the city possibly have?
Glenn
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From: KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM
To: Glenn moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: RE: [UC] PCPC and indictment
Thanks, Glenn, for posting this.
The minutes simply report the names of the people who testified in opposition. There is NO reporting of what was said. How can the Commission or outside parties review the differing positions fairly if the reasons for the opposition are not reported???
Andd you're right, Glenn, your name isn't even listed!!!
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:03:26 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [UC] PCPC and indictment
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> Here is a link to the "minutes" of the May 20 meeting of the Philadelphia City Planning Commission. The Campus Inn portion begins on page 4. Please forward this to any neighbors whom you know attended!
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> http://www.philaplanning.org/pubinfo/minutes/5-20-08%20mins.pdf
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> Here is the reported PCPC agenda for July 15. Item 4 is the subject which led to the charges against Kelly's aid, The Mechanical Access Parking Garage.
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> http://www.philaplanning.org/pubinfo/agendas/agenda080715.html
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> Many of us attended the May 20 meeting and testified. Do any of you believe that this is an accurate and complete record of the hours we spent May 20????????
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> None of our testimony was included. Many of our names were not reported. I gave the dates and exact wording of false information provided to the Philadelphia Historic Commission. Now, it never happened and I am invisible!
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> This is the same type of outrageous "minutes" which the PHC keeps! These minutes are so incomplete, so edited, and so outrageous these constitute a false record of the proceedings being put forth by our city government!
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> Remember too, the report provided on the list by Andrew and I about the prohibition of citizen recordings at "public hearings." Not only does the city gaurantee a pay to play system by creating false incomplete records which hide civil servant wrong-doing as much as wrong-doing by corporate developers; it protects its "public hearings" from the prying ears of citizen journalists.
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> The Novemeber 2007 meeting of the PHC should be studied! If we had transcripts of the "public hearing" to look at, all citizens of Philadelphia could review the shenanigans of the PHC staff!
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> Instead of relying on my eyewitness report, citizens would clearly see in the record; PHC reverse and change policy. Without any real discussion, they bypassed their own architectural committee and policy so that they could approve the Campus Inn on the spot! The staff leader, Farnham, drew laughter when he asserted that the public could have reviewed the new secret plans being presented that day-hahaha.
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> I think its time to stop focusing on just the Kelly office and look at how the city is gauranteeing pay to play in its most basic processes! The mayor wants to give this PCPC lots of new power like SHCA wants to give the PHC stormtrooper power! If the mayor wants reform, he needs to talk about basic public records and accountability instead of the silliness of NIMBY's and the brilliance of Penn Praxis!
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> Sincerely,
> Glenn
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