Well this NIMBY hasn't been put in his place so forcefully since Mr. West's last post.
"as a matter of fact, anyone can read all about >penn's proposed hotel, in great detail, in the meeting >minutes posted on the friends of 40th street website. just >click on all the recent links there:" Unfortunately, it appears that Tony's little green men have delivered the massive hotel data to the PCPC, Penn City Planning commission. It's in the secret backroom file marked, "Unanimous Community Support of The Campus Inn by Penn Praxis." Another NIMBY Wanker, Glenn -----Original Message----- >From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 6, 2008 10:05 PM >To: univcity <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St. > >Glenn moyer wrote: >>> Anthony West wrote: >>>> PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at >>>> which neighbors who are either for or against the >>>> hotel proposal can communicate and learn. This is not >>>> a panacea, but running meetings is PennPraxis' chief >>>> stock in trade. If regular public meetings can't help >>>> your faction, then yes, PennPraxis hasn't helped it >>>> and can't help it. It's not a sort of Planning >>>> Police, if that's what you have in mind. >> >> >> Ray, >> >> You might not know how funny this is! At 8AM, Penn >> Praxis holds these "regular forums" at the old folks >> home. Nurses wheel down their clients for donuts. As >> Praxis and Tom do the blah-blah, the folks take naps in >> their wheel chairs and the nurses get to go out for a >> smoke. Once Praxis shuts up, the folks get to socialize >> a bit before they're wheeled away. >> >> (I made a mad dash for the door because the Penn cop was >> giving me the eye after I called Tom's drawings >> deceptive. They had that drawing where the teeny weeny >> 10 story building was hiding behind the gigantic 3 story >> historic building.) >> >> People don't think Penn Praxis does anything useful. >> These geriatric socials are very important for the well >> being of these folks. It's meant to make a pretense of >> public engagement for Penn but luckily both the low paid >> nurses and old folks get some donuts, coffee, and a >> little group nap. >> >> >> >>>> If the people who show up at Friends of 40th St. >>>> meetings frequently express concern about the hotel >>>> proposal, then PennPraxis would likely record it in >>>> some way. By the same token, if nobody ever mentions >>>> opposition at any of these regular meetings, that >>>> too becomes a datum -- a way to measure public >>>> opinion. No one owns a copyright to the phrase "the >>>> neighbors", after all. >>>> >> >> >> Hahaha. There are no little green men collecting datums >> for Penn Praxis. Besides the sleeping old folks, it >> looks like a used car salesman convention at these >> "forums." This whole process Mr. West describes in >> detail and the little alien data collectors are just >> something in Mr. West's head-hahaha! > > > >I'm sorry, glenn, but penn praxis and friends of 40th street >are NOT mere window dressing! they're NOT shams! the people >who attend them are WELL-INFORMED and WIDE AWAKE at 8 am! >just ask al! as a matter of fact, anyone can read all about >penn's proposed hotel, in great detail, in the meeting >minutes posted on the friends of 40th street website. just >click on all the recent links there: > > http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/local/40th//reference.html > > >furthermore, glenn, uchs and shca have been extraordinarily >helpful to the neighbors in their opposition to this >proposed hotel! for one thing, uchs and shca knew about the >hotel plans back in april 2007, long before the public knew >about it in oct 2007 when uc review first published the >story. that was helpful! and ever since then, uchs and shca >have silently witnessed false testimony at the phc and pcpc >hearings -- without saying a word! that, too, was enormously >helpful! in addition, uchs and shca have held numerous >public meetings where the overwhelming public opposition to >the hotel was demonstrated, and, true to their missions, >uchs and shca have upheld and championed their constituents' >mandate to oppose the hotel. that was above and beyond helpful! > >and not only that, glenn, but ucd has been very visible and >vocal in their rallying the neighbors over this proposed >hotel zoning question! just like they were before and after >the dock street zoning question last year! in fact, anyone >can read all about ucd's close involvement with this hotel >zoning question on their website: > > http://tinyurl.com/5mm3se > >if you think about it, glenn, you'll find that the combined >efforts of penn praxis, ucd, shca, and uchs have been >enormously helpful to all our neighbors as they face this >penn-proposed hotel! besides publishing useful details about >the proposal's progress, both uchs and shca have been >extraordinarily vocal and visible in demonstrating how this >hotel is counter to their stated missions. meanwhile, penn >praxis and ucd have used this hotel controversy as a clear >demonstration of how involved they are with the community, >how committed they are to ensuring that the community has a >real voice in shaping their business corridors! could our >neighbors ask for more? could our neighbors be any better >served? I strongly doubt it, glenn! we are the luckiest >people in philadelphia! imagine: having such committed >advocates whenever penn or developers want to have their way >in our neighborhood! > >and this is all in stark contrast to our neighbors across >the river, who have to fend for themselves whenever some >large institution determines how a bridge is renovated! if >only other philadelphians would look to us and our >organizations, as THE model of civic involvement and >transparency and sensible development, things in philly >would happen a lot smoother, a lot more transparently, and >not drag on for years, ultimately putting institutions >before citizens! > >I can't wait for the next round of help from penn praxis, >shca, ucd, and uchs for this hotel project! their hard work >and on-going commitment to their constituents will certainly >be a well-earned addition to their ever-growing resumes, and >it will serve as a model for civic engagement and >transparency for all philadelphians! in the meantime, glenn, >it would help if you weren't such a nimby naysayer! no one >likes a nimby naysayer! > > >.................. >UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---- >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >list named "UnivCity." 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