You wanted to insult Mike Van Helder, and you did this by insinuating
that he's gay. Clearly, you see homosexuality as something ugly and
shameful. Don't try to torture this into anything but what it is: your
loathing of gay people.

You may not have liked Mike's line about truckstop bathrooms, but it
wasn't a _slur against gay people_.

On 10/5/11, Richard Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
> It was a question - of rhetoric - Brian.  Tell the truth, I didn't think
> that you thought there was anything intrinsically slur-ful about
> homosexuality, Brian... and besides I was referring in rhetorical fashion to
> the more sinister and violent forms of homo-erotic cruelty, not to any
> normal or healthy sorts of homo-eroticisms...
>
> Judgement (as beauty and cogency) is also frequently a matter for the 'mind
> of the beholder' caveat!
>
> You stooped to the use of 'gutter-level bigotry' not me.
>
> Mike called Glenn  "as classy as a truckstop bathroom, ...and half as
> pleasant" or did you miss that one Brian?
>
> I've referred to Mike's use of "bathroom humor" as being a deviant use of
> the familiar and unworthy of any thing one could call loving response.  It,
> unlike Glenn's clever and cogent poem, was unkind, unsubtle, and rather
> banal.  It attacked without allowing for feelings or thoughts.
>
> Bill had previously been a bit unfeeling and crude in his 'resigning' but
> slurring statement:  "I did not intend to feed the trolls, but their
> incessant, idiotic, incoherent ramblings and constant reiteration of the
> Party Line,  tend to grossly offend any thinking person.  Therefore,
> goodbye."
>> William H. Magill
>> Block Captain
> 4400 Chestnut Street"
>
> As far as peoples opinions about homosexuality... I did not make a slur
> against the concept, life-style, extant notion(s), or erotic preference.
> Did you?  I leave the issue for you to decide, I can't speak for you.  I
> have generally preferred the term homo-erotocism as homo-sexuality can tend
> to lead to confusion, and while generativity is certainly not always
> hetero-sexual... "sexual" reproduction in which biological meiosis
> recombination produces a viable zygote seems to have tended quite
> exclusively in the direction of hetero-partnering.
>
> P.S.  I assume you are referring to me as 'Rich', though you have never
> known me to use that name, rather:  Rick Conrad, or Richard Conrad... Please
> at this time I ask... do not call me Rich, Brian, if you would be so kind.
> :>)
>
> "Can't we all just try to get along"  - Rodney King
>
> Rick Conrad
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
>
>> It's shameful that Rich would leap to slurs about homosexuality.
>>
>> Argue all you want, call each other names all you want, but Rich's
>> gutter-level bigotry is just revolting.
>>
>> On 10/5/11, Richard Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> when you gotta go...  you really gotta go...  SO GO!
>>>
>>> Do you use your bathroom 'humor' with your lovers too Mike or just those
>>> you
>>> want to make humbled...  hmmm, maybe they are the same set of members...
>>> maybe you actually want to both humiliate Glenn and also be his lover...
>>> like the huckleberry dude in the movie Tombstone?
>>>
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