I'm not sure how Ross' son figures here. His son is about 25 years old.  Last I 
heard, he isn't living in Philadelphia, though he could have been visiting. 

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On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:46, Jim Cummings <[email protected]> wrote:

> The dog attacked Ross's son. I do not think that he was being sarcastic. I 
> could see how you could be annoyed if you thought he was being sarcastic. 
> Even jokers have a serious side. He was expressing an opinion. I do not want 
> to see a parent criticized for defending his child.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Alexine Fleck <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't know; I think Susan is raising a point even if you don't agree with 
>> her decision to block Ross. There's a time for Ross's version of wit and I 
>> don't think this was one of those times. Anyone who reads these 
>> conversations knows that there are many animal lovers and rescuers in our 
>> community and, whatever the details, there are two dead dogs who suffered 
>> more than necessary. This is really upsetting. Full stop. 
>> 
>> I think if you're a person who likes to write silly or sarcastic commentary 
>> on the things that happen in our neighborhood, particularly when you know 
>> that those comments will upset some members of your community, you need to 
>> accept the fact that some people will get upset. It was a thoughtless and 
>> mean comment and Ross's timing was off. But if you want to be the 
>> neighborhood wit, then I guess that's what happens sometimes. 
>> 
>> And I'd add that having a bad experience with a loose/aggressive dog is no 
>> excuse. I've had bad experiences with all sorts of beings, but I don't just 
>> spout off nasty comments at any opportunity and I certainly don't defend a 
>> faux pas by making an excuse about that bad experience. I usually prefer 
>> apologizing. 
>> 
>> We need to have a conversation about what happened, but I guess I wish it 
>> could be a litte more genuine when the experience is still so raw. As much 
>> as I like wit, that particular comment felt cheap and, like Susan, I was 
>> upset. I don't delete people, but I do plan to skim or skip Ross's comments 
>> the next time something upsetting happens. 
>> 
>> Alexine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:52 AM, B Andersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Blocking someone because of their viewpoint on dogs? Wow.
>>>  
>>> As my son was once attacked by an off leash dog in Clark Park, I can 
>>> understand what Ross was saying. In know way was he advocating poor 
>>> treatment of animals, but expressing the frustration of a parent over the 
>>> actions of some dog owners.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Jim Cummings <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Wow. Ross' child has been the victim of dog attacks and expresses that 
>>>> anger - not so elegantly - and you decide that you cannot see anything 
>>>> worthwhile in anything he ever says. The attack had a lasting effect on 
>>>> his son. I hope that you can cut him a break. 
>>>> Ross I am sorry for what happened to your son. I look forward to your 
>>>> future posts as always.
>>>> I am sure that there is something that I can't stand about every person on 
>>>> this list but I think that I can figure out how to be in a community with 
>>>> them all. 
>>>> or are dogs more important than Ross' son?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:53 AM, ys danielson 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Ditto!  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Susan Finkelstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > I find Ross's comments very distressing. I can't even begin to get on 
>>>>> > the subject of how dogs are not the guilty ones when "owners" just let 
>>>>> > them go or abandon them. But... see, I already started.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am adding Ross to my Blocked Senders list, as an FYI. Sorry, but I 
>>>>> > have to.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > S.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:53:41 -0400
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [UCNeighbors] Police shooting dogs last night, 48th/Pine
>>>>> > From: [email protected]
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "the dogs were not behaving aggressively but MAY HAVE BEEN JUMPING ON 
>>>>> > PEOPLE."  Bullshit. They deserved what they got. If only the owners 
>>>>> > could be identified and brought to justice.
>>>>> > Ross Bender
>>>>> > http://rossbender.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Linda Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Folks, Please read Nadia's note below and share.  The story, with 
>>>>> > comments, is also up on westphillylocal:
>>>>> > http://www.westphillylocal.com/2013/04/16/two-dogs-shot-on-48th-street-between-pine-and-osage/#comments
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> > From: Nadia Adawi <[email protected]>
>>>>> > Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM
>>>>> > Subject: [PFSNI] Police shooting dogs last night, 48th/Pine
>>>>> > To: PFSNI <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > By now many of you know that last night police shot two dogs on 48th 
>>>>> > St. between Pine and Osage. I did not witness the shooting, but have 
>>>>> > heard from others that the dogs were not behaving aggressively but may 
>>>>> > have been jumping on people.  Not only do I view this shooting as an 
>>>>> > outrageous overreaction, I am more than a little concerned about police 
>>>>> > discharging weapons when there was, by all accounts, a whole lot of 
>>>>> > people around.
>>>>> > Anyone who witnessed the incident is being encouraged to provide a 
>>>>> > statement to Internal Affairs or to the Police Advisory Commission, 
>>>>> > according to Kelvyn Anderson, Executive Director Police Advisory 
>>>>> > Commission (215-685-0891 or [email protected]).
>>>>> > If anyone knows who owned the dogs, please ask them to contact me. The 
>>>>> > PA Bar Association Animal Law Committee may be interested in taking on 
>>>>> > this issue, because it seems to be part of a nationwide trend.
>>>>> > Nadia
>>>>> > Nadia Adawi, M.B.A., Esq.
>>>>> > [email protected]
>>>>> > (215) 292-3080 cell
>>>>> >
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