in response to "Id like to know what PHP frameworks if any you use. "
Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
I think they are dumb, generally because they are unnecessary bloat.
i completely agree with wade on this. i have never seen the added
benefits as being anything more than bloat. additionally, i have found
that, if you use a framework as the starting point, you don't get to
know the language as well.
there is also the [aesthetic] issue of code *format* control. i found
that if an auto-generator creates modules, that you need to later mod, i
don't like the formatting that it used and i have to go through the
entire thing and reformat it so that it matches the rest of the code
base. [that comment goes more towards a discussion the list had about
*clean* code and readability of multiple deveolpers.]
I like my stuff to be lean and mean and completely custom.
again, i feel exactly the same way. streamlining is always at the fore
of my thoughts and it seems to me like a framework doesn't concern its
self with that as much, in the name of robustness.
If a framework comes with a few things like a DB-connect module, a
form engine, a validator, an authentication module… has a templating
engine (separates the display from the business logic)… and a few
other things like that… and that is all it does… then it could be
helpful in jumpstarting you on a project, and not reinventing the
wheel each time...
but, if you have already made these modules once, then you already have
that library to cull from, so re-invention [of the wheel] isn't even a
toic of conversation. it's done.
-thinbegin
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