Most of your benefits come from your own standards. If you are a pro-hacking PHP scripter, you will find much less appreciation for frameworks. If you are a OO enthusiast and MVC enthusiast, you will appreciate a decent sized Framework for most products. If you are a single developer, working on a single product, that you don't foresee having a lot of changes in the future, you won't get much benefit out of a framework. If you are on a team of developers, and a team of designers, you will find a great benefit to a framework, especially one with MVC, DTO/DAO, and more.
It's all in your project and how you code. --Will On Jan 23, 2008 10:08 AM, Jim Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in response to "Id like to know what PHP frameworks if any you use. " > > > Wade Preston Shearer wrote: > > > > I think they are dumb, generally because they are unnecessary bloat. > i completely agree with wade on this. i have never seen the added > benefits as being anything more than bloat. additionally, i have found > that, if you use a framework as the starting point, you don't get to > know the language as well. > > there is also the [aesthetic] issue of code *format* control. i found > that if an auto-generator creates modules, that you need to later mod, i > don't like the formatting that it used and i have to go through the > entire thing and reformat it so that it matches the rest of the code > base. [that comment goes more towards a discussion the list had about > *clean* code and readability of multiple deveolpers.] > > > I like my stuff to be lean and mean and completely custom. > again, i feel exactly the same way. streamlining is always at the fore > of my thoughts and it seems to me like a framework doesn't concern its > self with that as much, in the name of robustness. > > > > If a framework comes with a few things like a DB-connect module, a > > form engine, a validator, an authentication module… has a templating > > engine (separates the display from the business logic)… and a few > > other things like that… and that is all it does… then it could be > > helpful in jumpstarting you on a project, and not reinventing the > > wheel each time... > > but, if you have already made these modules once, then you already have > that library to cull from, so re-invention [of the wheel] isn't even a > toic of conversation. it's done. > > > -thinbegin > > > _______________________________________________ > > UPHPU mailing list > [email protected] > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
